The original comment was mine. I simply said the joke wasn't funny, given the context of what had just happened in Bangladesh. It's a very strange interpretation to see this as "victimisation". I expressed an opinion which some others happened to agree with. Dan may, for all I know regard the joke as hilarious. Neither I nor Leo set out to impose rules, even supposing we had the power to do so. For me being "grown up" is not about saying anything you want. It includes using a bit of judgement over things which are likely to offend, racism included. Given that Dan apologised if he had offended anyone I'm not sure your own response about "sects" and "rules" isn't rather over the top.
Golden Gordon, I love comedy, you love music! This man is a master of both! [video=youtube;wGESFaMl84U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGESFaMl84U&feature=endscreen[/video]
1 As Theo says the original comment was his --with which I agreed 2 Both you and Dan have showed that your sense of humour is broader than mine and some others'. Not better, not worse but different 3 I don't like jokes that make fun of people who have suffered in the recent past. Some people clearly do. 4 The Watford threads - like the club and most of its supporters has always seemed to me nice and more "polite" than some threads - those - eg General Forum in my opinion are where riskier jokes belong. 5 I would prefer to see jokes that make fun of real individuals not on this thread and as the rep system is there to allow us to show our personal approval and disapproval I will use it that way in the future. 6 It is nothing about being adult - it is about our opinion of good and bad taste. 7 Where do you get the idea of a sect from? 8 Who is the loudest? Who talks about following rules? My opinion is equal to yours and everybody else's 9 Why are you picking on ME alone when the first post was not mine and others agreed with me? Isn't that victimisation? 10 I intended to quit once due to nastiness but have no intention of doing so again. 11 Who says any form of racism is fine? We are entitled to find things funny or not - isn't that what humour is? 12 Reppng is about expressing our personal approval or disapproval of posts - I don't like appreciate or value your post. Casual racism is NOT OK, I victimise nobody, grown ups should understand that not everybody approves of what they say, sects are not mentioned, nobody said there were rules, and nobody is being louder. Other than that yours was a good post. And the "point" is that the approval system is there to reflect your views. Mine is that your post is one I disapprove of - sorry - and that is not vicitmisation either.
Both my grandad and my uncle were great brass banders- top notch cornet players. Grandad joined the army in about 1910 as a boy bandsman.Oops! Bad timing for a muso. He went through the lot 14-18, and was slightly gassed but went on playing into the 50's brass bands and dance bands . Re-inforces exactly what you say. I thought of him when I saw photos of that poor drummer boy this morning. I could weep.
He was a genius, CD. "Darling you look two-derful tonight" He was a lieu-eleven-ant in the US Air Fiveses.
My mate was going on about a bloke who always had to outdo everyone - he said "if you went to Tenerife he went to Elevenerife". Made me laugh anyway.
Could be a new game here- making up up "If you... then he ..." Ummm... If you asked for a Castlemaine 4X he'd ask for a 5X. Ok, not very good. Taxi!!
Not going to argue or comment on most of that but just to say that as I have recognised that my post was perhaps not appropriate on here I now reserve the right to point out others that make fun of real individuals or contain casual racism in the future free of being accused of double standards - and I'm not implying that you have suggested that. Anyway, now we all know where we stand I think Maestro should play us a song on his bloody euphonium for Monday.
[video=youtube;R7GeKLE0x3s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7GeKLE0x3s[/video] Surely one of the funniest TV moments ever
Not as funny as yours Maestro but still made me laugh. The Ghandi song is hysterical. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl_QWkvtCXI
Dan - it just comes down to different things we find funny doesn't it? Nothing wrong with that but I just felt - like Theo - that one was perhaps not in good taste. I actually considered posting a comment before Theo did - but held back as it was you and we are treating each other with kid gloves since our "spat" Then in came Toby with his hob-nailed boots If casual racism means jokes against the Irish or English or Scottish then I am afraid I rarely consider them racist - my own probably illogical view - when you poke fun at a nationality in basically a good humoured way then most of us accept it as intended. With real individuals I just draw the line at people who have suffered hurt - again maybe just my own foible. Who cares? This is supposed to be a humourous thread and if I could think of a joke I would write it now. This is the best I have got for now: A married couple in their early 60s was celebrating their 40th wedding anniversary in a quiet, romantic little restaurant. Suddenly, a tiny yet beautiful fairy appeared on their table. She said, 'For being such an exemplary married couple and for being loving to each other for all this time, I will grant you each a wish.' The wife answered, 'Oh, I want to travel around the world with my darling husband The fairy waved her magic wand and - ****! - two tickets for the Queen Mary II appeared in her hands. The husband thought for a moment: 'Well, this is all very romantic, but an opportunity like this will never come again. I'm sorry my love, but my wish is to have a wife 30 years younger than me. The wife, and the fairy, were deeply disappointed, but a wish is a wish. So the fairy waved her magic wand and ****!...the husband became 92 years old. The moral of this story: Men who are ungrateful should remember fairies are female.
Transcription below is a real conversation between a friend of mine and an energy supplier last night. Well, it made me laugh! Npower want a meter reading and tell me I'm being recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Me: Great Npower man: Can you confirm your name and address for security reasons Oh here we go again.. Me: No. You called me. Npower man (predictably): Pardon Me: I said no. Here's your reading and the meter serial number that should do you. Npower man: Thank you. When is a good time to send someone to check the meter? Morning, afternoon or evening? Me: Depends which date. Npower man: I don't know which date. Me: Well, then I can't tell you when's best to send someone. Npower man: Well, generally what's best? Me: When I'm here. Npower man: Is that morning, afternoon or evening? Me: That will depend on which date he comes? Npower man: We can Saturday morning or afternoon. Me: Which Saturday will that be? Npower man: I don't know, do you want morning or afternoon. Me: I'm trying to tell you and your recording equipment that without a date I'm either here or I'm not morning, afternoons and evenings. Npower man: Okay, I'll put down anytime then. Me: Sure, you do that.
Theo my point was not against you. I fully respect your right to find that offensive, and I never said it was a particularly funny joke. Since the other day, when my name was mentioned (unfairly and then categorised with absolutely no context), as a someone that doesn't 'belong on this board', I've been annoyed. I've followed the posts of the members of this board since 2009, but never felt like I could contribute on BBC 606 because of the 'clique' mentality that was rife, and still is (unless you're a random poster from another club, but all watford fans that have attempted to post have just about got a 'hello', without any attempt at integration). Leo has been 'victimising' Dan since the other day, maybe he was actually offended by what he said, but since the 'I'm leaving' thread, there's also been the 'Strax' comment, and it's not fair to bring someone up on everything they say. I disagree with an awful lot of posts on this site, and I post on General Chat, but the beauty of the internet is that it was created (well after the american army invented it, the nerds did all the work) by people that aspired to freedom of speech and expression. I've been online since I was about 13, nearly 15 years ago, and trust me, as a nerd, the amount of free time and effort that was put in for free by the computing community to improve this amazing means of communication is insane. To stop rambling, the internet was created by an evil force, taken over by altruistic people (like Mick who runs this site for no profit, allowing us to discuss Watford and other topics), and the original point of it was to allow anyone a voice. This board no longer represents that. Do you want me to quote Frenchy's 'non-PC' jokes? they're only a page back. I find them offensive, mostly because I abhor racism in all its forms. If anything Dan's joke was taking a tragedy and attacking Primark for it, which from my point of view, is not exactly laughing at dead people. I laugh at John Cleese's german jokes in Fawlty Towers, yet the 2nd world war was not funny. I'm quite drunk so this was probably not the most articulate post.
I don't care about differences of sense of humour, you've had a thing for Dan for no reason, and it's not fair seeing you're a respected member of this board. Rep is a meaningless internet algorithm, taking it seriously is a bit like thinking the Top 10 charts of the week in the music world represents anything. I'm not picking on you, I'm defending Dan, but you seem to have an issue with him when from my point of view, he's done absolutely nothing wrong. BB and Frenchy have both posted jokes that I consider racist, but it's casual racism and that's accepted on here? Just leave Dan to post on here without singling him out every time, he's a nice chap with a passion for Watford, like all of us on here, you have no right to make him feel like an intruder on here. This board technically belongs to Mick, as he pays for it and it actually costs him money to keep it going, it's definitely not a profitable adventure.
I started this thread as a place for a bit of fun, particularly on a Friday afternoon as I suggested. So could we keep it as a place for witty commentary and jokes - of course we all have a line that we personally do not cross and object if others do, but we are all different and so those lines are different as well. To keep this thread as it was intended, could I make a humble suggestion or two? 1. If you feel offended by someone's post, just reply "not amusing" and do one of those negative rep things - I hane no idea about that stuff, so fill ya boots 2. Don't start a debate about the morals of a "joke or witty comment" you do not find amusing....move on, ave a beer, contribute on a different thread, walk the dog, talk to 'er indoors... This was intended to be a place for a quick laugh..let's keep it that way my wonderful friends...
As John Cleese once said: "Nobody has the right not to be offended". With that in mind I find the Primark joke quite funny and I'll not apologise for that. The barb is not poking fun of the victims of the tragedy - unlike the "joke" about the late, tragic, Gary Speed that appeared on our threads a while back - it is aimed fairly and squarely at Primark who allowed their products to be made in such a dangerous environment. I refuse to by my clothes from those places which means my clothes bill is inordinately expensive relatively speaking for my income. My conscience is clear. Crystal. A bit extra on my clothes bill is a price worth paying. Back to the proper thread: Fella went to the doctor's with a fried egg on his head. The doctor asks "why have you got a fried egg on your head?" "Cos the boiled ones keep rolling off!"