That's a metter of opinion Proud ... not a fact. I suspect that if all 3 were currently put up for auction, Danns would go for the second highest price behind King. Just my opinion.
The thing is, nobody really knows. We can only speculate on what has been going on behind the scenes. I don't totally agree with this "Pearson can't handle big players" idea that everyone has. How much is Danns on? 30k a week? How much are James, Drinkwater on? Nowhere near that amount, I'd even be inclined to say their combined wages are less than Danns alone. He fell out with Matt Mills. Yeh at the time we signed him, there was a lot of interest in him. But as Proud says, hardly setting the world alight at Bolton is he? Besides, when he was here, everyone was moaning at how bad he was, with his lack of discipline and his constant giving away of the ball with his long balls. And Beckford? Don't get me started... Doesn't suit the way we play, because the way we play, involves running and stuff. Huddersfield fans didn't even like him, and they are a worse team than us. If anything, I'm glad he "can't handle" these so-called big players. I imagine one of the objectives upon his return was to reduce the wage bill. We are only loaning them to other Championship clubs, and are paying the majority of their wages. Whose fault is that? I'd rather we pay 100% of their wages to play for another club, than pay 100% of their wages to sit in our reserves.
Pearson will only work with people who want to work for him and the team If they have hidden agenda's or are more interested in themselves then its just not going to work out I much prefer Nigel's methods then have a team full of people like Beckford, Danns, Mills, Johnson, Pantsil etc. Players on massive wages who couldnt give a ****
Im bricking it here. My gaffer hasnt said hes not sacking me today and he didnt say it last week either, Do you think hes lining Mark Hughes up for my job?
... wouldn't disagree at all ... with those ... I'm more concerned about the 'big players' that we'll need to survive in the Prem.
Let's think about that when (/if ) we get there... I think we will keep Pearson for now, and he will be in charge here for our first league game of the season. It'll be interesting to see what happens if we have a start like last year, but sacking him, say, 10 games in would be more detrimental to us than sacking him now. Obviously if he doesn't get us up next season, he's toast.
Funny how Sven is kopping the blame for any negatives Sven has a pretty awesome CV in football management - must have been luck rather than ability I guess. Memories are short - it was Sven who brought in our now most marketable asset, Kasper Schmeichel - I think we should all acknowledge that - undoubtedly the best signing for the club since? .... probably Matt Elliott? Jack mentions above that sacking Nigel 10 games into next season would be detrimental ... have to say I can't recall how many games Sven got from the start of that season before we sacked him.... anyone?
So does signing Kasper redeem Sven for paying 4M for Matt Mills, 2M for Beckford, 1M to to loan fat Michael Johnson, 1.5M for Konchesky, 1M for Lee Peltier Crap loans like Jeff Bruma, Patrick Van Aanholt, Diomansy Kamara, Chris Kirkland. And what the hell was the point of Michael Ball and John Pantsil? He gave big new contract to Wellens and Gallagher. Gave pointless new deals to Matt Oakley, Bruno Berner and Steve Howard and then never even put them on the bench And who remembers Ricardo! Forgetting all the stupid wages Svens time here was an expensive car crash
How can you remember that far back and forget about the excellent first half of the season Pearson had this year. In some ways Sven has made the squad better, but when you have the blank cheque book, its hard to fail on all the purchases. Personally i don't like that he moved Hobbs on so quickly, but at least he got rid of Fryatt.
Exactly. No-one is saying Sven failed 100%. Kasper, Nugent and to lesser degrees, Konchesky and St Ledger were great-to-decent signings. But how many players did he sign? And we can only talk about a handful as actually being worthy (St Ledger doesn't even make the team these days). I never understood why people raved about Danns. Well I do, he worked hard, but often he'd run around like a headless chicken, usually behind the play and lunging into tackles. In games in which the play was mostly bogged down in midfield, he was useful but other than that, he was usually left out to dry. I agree with Proud: King>James>Drinkwater>Danns.
Another excellent point. The anti-Pearson brigade blame his lack of motivational skills, his man-management style, particularly dealing with "big names", and his tactically awareness. The latter is always a go-to criticism when you're team hasn't achieved what you hoped/dreamed, the other two, only those that work within the club can possibly know. Pearson may be the best motivator and man-manager in the land, doesn't necessarily mean the players will respond. I think they actually have looked motivated, just a tad naive and nervous at times, which is not surprising because of the average age of the squad. Here's a stat for you - the average of Pearson's 2012/13 signings was just 20 1/2.
That's you opinion. The score, the stats and I disagree. I'm not saying we were the better side, but it was certainly more balanced than you claim. Don't let your agenda against Pearson stand in the way of appreciating your sides efforts. When they deserve criticism, like Barnsley away for instance, then I'll be the first to join in.
Sven permanently signed players who were 27, 28 years old- players that should have made an immediate impact, and didn't. Pearson's are a fair bit younger and he can mould them into the players he wants- see Matty James and the supposedly 'difficult' Antony Knockaert. They might not be ready yet but they will be. They'll all improve over the summer, and hopefully we'll have another couple of gems to add to them. Next season is promising.
There's no agenda against Nigel Pearson personally - but there is and rightly so (yes in my opinion), justifiable concern about the run we went on and his inability to manage us out of it - and can you name another club that has put so many disaffected senior pros out on loan or sold them in such a short space of time? - I can't - so I think there is rightly a question mark (again my opinion) about his ability to manage more senior players. Nobody is speculating that Nigel might not like custard for instance on a 'hunch' - the doubters have a real and obvious basis for their doubts, whether that upsets the 'pro-Pearson brigade' or not ...
1) I didn't - I gave them credit for the huffing and puffing - but was realistic in my assessment of the game - althought I doubt you'd be interested in testing our respective views on 'neutrals' because they will no doubt have an anti-Leicester or anti-Pearson agenda yes? 2) incorrect - if you are joining a group you are not the first
