He has to stay and bring us up again the coming season. Why bringing in a new Coach and letting HR out of his responsibilities - he has got to prove something I guess.
Jesus, I have to say, if a psychiatrist was to study these boards, they'd say most people on here are suffering a form if "mass hysteria", it really is worrying and very depressing. I blame the Internet! Once upon a time, and for the benefit of our younger readers, football was all about 3pm on a Saturday afternoon, and maybe a bit of banter with your friends about their teams. You didn't have a clue about anything that was going on at the club until you turned up on a Saturday afternoon and read the program to see what was going on. Sometimes you'd turn up, only to find we'd signed a player, cause unless you heard it on the radio at about quarter passed midnight on a local radio news, sometimes you just didn't hear about these things. Now we have every tom, sick and Harry announcing their bullshit to the world, everyone's suddenly become a professional footballer, manager and owner rolled in to one, and of course as is everyone's god given right to moan, they do so with gusto. 20-30 years ago, it didn't matter if your team was ****, they were still your team, you were proud of them even when they were ****. You bemoaned certain players, the manager and all the other topics that people moan about now. The difference was, you moaned for 90 minutes and then you went home, you might have had your footballing depression on for the rest of the weekend if we lost, but the moaning stopped there. At least until 3pm the following Saturday. But not now. Now, Tom dick and Harry moan from Monday to sunday. They read what some nameless hack wrote in the sun, so they spread it like wild fire and within 10 minutes, otherwise sane men are on the verge of a breakdown, pulling their hair out, "what's our formation going to be"??? We have had by all accounts, a truly awful season, as fans we have a right to moan, but it would seem everyone's collective fear are poured in to one big pot here and that seems to become the collective view. A few short months ago everyone wanted Harry, now a few short months later everyone wants to get rid if him. My my, Flavio would be very proud of some of you, you're the apples of his eye. Have we learned nothing from the mistakes that have been made? We want our rangers back was the cry from the terraces when briatore was sacking managers left, right and centre, we became a laughing stock. But now it's the fans that seem to want the owners to push the self destruct button. We need Harry to stay, we need to retain as many players from this season as possible, not just cause of the finances, but because we were so bloody awful through lack of any backbone, adel is our longest serving player at the club at just under 2 years, plus a couple of loan spells. This is why we were so bloody bad, we had no one who'd been at the club long enough to care when it did go tits up. That why Swansea and Norwich are doing fine and we are back to the championship. You can't have a team of mercenaries, you need a team, but years of chopping managers and players has left us with deadline day panics and sick notes. Do you really want that to continue? Rednapp proved in January that his type of signing would have kept us up, he can't help that he had a team of people that didn't want to be there. All the panic from bullshit stories is silly. We shouldn't just want Harry to stay, we should be begging him, unless he walks away then there is just one choice, get behind everyone! It's what we used to do, even if someone was ****, because the fans belief, whether real or imaginary, can rub of on a team. If we as fans bring an air of doom and gloom to next season ten why should we expect the players to be any different? So please, let's put this season to bed and look forward to a season untouched by mark Hughes. It's going to be a big year and we need to get behind the lads, even if they were **** this year! You have to give players time to shine. I've made the point before, but many of our greats took time to become the legends that they are today.
Agree. And for me, the fact that a great deal of responsibility must be placed on the players' shoulders, and the poor atmosphere in the dressing room, which I don't think Harry could do much about. I think Harry excels when he has his own players around him. That worked for him at Portsmouth and Spurs.
Yeah mate, lets let all those hard working parents and fans get ripped of by a manager who doesn't want to be here, a team of ****e and an owner who has no f-ing idea how to run a football club...they could also get F-d up the arse with high ST prices and get reamed by watching ****e and not complaining about it. in fact, they should be greatfull to be shafted..... WHAT A CROCK OF SH*TE!! whiolst we're at it, "lets bring back the good old days eh"....5 yr olds going up chimneys, racism, football holigans and violence,spousal abuse and all the other great stuf that we used to have years ago, but never did anything about...because we didn't know.....!! I've read some crap but this really is ridiculous. Information is the key to advancement and improvement, btu you wanna go back 30 years !! good luck with that this post lets you down Lone. I usually like your ideas. Sorry, gotta be honest !
Wooh there Rusty, it is just someone speaking their piece, let's not bust a vessel or worse. All is good, mate. Yoga is good .................together, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmhhhh.
For me I think Harry isn't the right man for the job but I rather give our managers a chance to prove selves. Alex F didn't perform well at the beginning at Man U, can't remember Moyes performing brilliantly either, consistency and time is what is needed, to build a group of players, unless disaster strikes give him time. Whose ethos do you want Man Utd or Man city ?
We are going to have to change at least half the squad, I dont want redknapp to do that and then leave meaning a new man comes in and might not fancy players who havent even played a game yet. Better to dump him first as he will never be here at the end of next season, no chance.
You can compare us to Man City when we sack managers for failing to finish in the top half of the PL. Those managers were at the beginning of their careers. Redkapp is 67.
sorry mate..but the post is ****e! If you cant take the heat stay out the kitchen!! I make no appologies going back to 30 yrs ago is a pile of **** full stop...we weren't that great, we had **** fans and horrible supporters.....take the rose coloured tints off and we may get near the truth.. seems to be a theme for this board !
Queens, if you think our fans were **** 30 years ago, then I suggest that you then you're a bit of a disgrace. There were, are and always will be the inevitable moron at any ground, but our fans have always been popular, until the last few years. Beside you missed my point, I'm not suggesting we go back to the good old days?!? I said that you didn't get fans spouting rubbish as if they are better than the manager or owner, you didn't get people panicking over some bullshit story in a paper or rumour on the net. I am saying that back then, fans were fans and supported the team, no questions asked, no matter the weather or what donkey we had playing for us, because it was Queens Park Rangers and that's all that mattered. Now you've got fans calling for our manager to be sacked after 6 months???? Its stupid, and is exactly what the same fans were screaming for us to stop doing under Briatore. If you give a manager 6 months each time, then you will get exactly what we've got, a team with so little confidence and spirit that they'd probably lose to a team of school boys. Stick by your manager, as Man U, Arsenal and Everton have done and proved, then you get a team spirit, belief and over time that becomes ingrained within the very ethos of that club. Something we lost a long time ago and unless we stop making that mistake it will continue. But fans can't have it both ways. If you're not happy with how this season has gone, then why scream for us to make the same mistakes?? Can you not see the failed logic in your argument???
Ha brilliant and so predictable. I hadn just written this response to your initial post and was only going ton quote the below. Note the reference to Everton, Manu and Arsenal that you immediately and misguidely went and did. If Arsenal stuck with Bruxce Rioch or United with Ron Atkinson they obviously wouldnt be in the same position so you must realuise how daft that statement is!!!!!!!!!!!!!! One word answer are you proud of this team? Iâm a Rangers fan. For me the concept of being proud of that doesnât really exist as an issue. Iâm a Rangers fan, thatâs that. I love the club but Iâm certainly not proud of the team and the performances weâve turned in this year. If you remember the old days so fondly when things like these forums didnât exist then my advice would be not to participate in one. People like yourself look at clubs like Arsenal with Wenger and United with Ferguson or even Everton with Moyes and hold that as an example of âsee you need stability to get successâ. The obvious point your missing is that THEY ARE GOOD MANAGERS!! We stuck with Hughes too long. The point to sack him was post West Ham game. Had that happended in time for key Reading and Southampton games we may have survived. No value in repeating the same trick with a manager who fails to respect the club or the economics of the situation which makes it impossible to simply pays players off to leave. Redknappâs persistent moans and trotting out the same old lines again and again how he is essentially completely blameless and how things are going to be so difficult going forward are tiresome and not helpful. Redknapp is putting this club down again and again to protect his own public image. Maybe you should take your own advice and have some pride in your club and take issue with that.
I'd agree with you Lone, but the manager doesn't sound like he wants to stick with us, and if he stays with us as long as Moyes did at Everton he'll be 76....... I'm all for stability, but I'm afraid Harold is not the man to deliver it. One thing he had was the fans in the stadium's support, which he has proceeded to throw away with his comments and demeanour. Nowadays we have the information, constantly streamed at us, and we will form opinions based on that. My advice to Harold would be to keep his mouth shut for a bit. He won't be sacked, but he may walk. If he's not gone by the end of July I'd want him to stay for the whole season, we all know changing mid-season gets you nowhere in most cases. If he's sensible he'll be consulting Warnock on players and how to get out of the NPC.
... i'm going to diagree with your essentail and crucual point that "we need Harry to stay". This board is a forum for discussion but I never understand why certain members are so keen to tip toe around each other. That post is a perfect example of it. If you diasgree just say it. As you obviously dont even agree with the first bit which is that the old days when these type of forums didnt exist were great because you also particapte in them
but PD, we have the internet now, and ever now we are more informed than ever before, we are not allowed to voice our opinions. we should be like those sheep from years ago and just accept what we are told and rattle our rattles in support of our club. think Lone must believe that only in the last 20 years fans have been ripped off. We all know that it never went on before that when we were a rubbish team..!! Owners never conned the fans pre-premiership did they. how much did a replica kit cost years ago?, ticket prices, meat pies?..all relative to the cost of living..like I say..rose tinted specs on a few I believe! his post is still ****e !
When Harry came in he was lumbered with a group of mercenaries who couldn't have cared less about QPR and were simply happy to take TF's money. I doubt any manager, not even the Special One, could have done any better. They were a law unto themselves already and the same is true now, no manager on this planet could get the current lot playing as a proper team. Harry should be given the chance to build the squad that HE wants, get rid of the hangers on, impose proper discipline and get players who are committed. Only then would it be fair to judge him. If he does that and we are lingering in the bottom half of the table come Christmas then yes he should go but until then he should be given the chance. I would say that the minimum target next year will be a play-off place.
The trouble is he shows no sing of turning it around. Id rather have PDC in fining players all over the place than someone just shrugging their shoulders and saying its very difficult. Id have had the players in at 7am sunday morning and run them until they puke when they put in "performances" like they have all season. Harry isnt the man to do that, hes too soft.
Harry needs to convince TF and the board that he has the ability to turn this round, I'm assuming his game plan to them is more inspiring than his moaning to the press. This has to be a plea to ensure he gets some of the money from kicking out the duds to re-invest. I personally think he'll stay and wants to stay - don't think he appeals to Brighton - they'd invest in a cheaper and younger manager I'm sure. After that not sure where he'd end up, Bournemouth in semi-retirement maybe.
Keep your hair on. Nice logic: You participate in an Internet forum therefore you think that the past is no good. Actually I preferred many of the things Lone listed about football in the olden days to football today. But I would prefer Harold to go now, so I do disagree with him. There are many ways to express yourself, Lone is a good poster, didn't feel the need for your aggressive approach.
