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Some stats from this season (for those that still back Pardew)...

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  1. Graham Carr's Binoculars

    Graham Carr's Binoculars Well-Known Member

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    - Most goals conceded in a single prem season.
    - Most long balls played in a single season.
    - Biggest home defeat in our prem history.
    - Biggest home derby loss in our prem history.
    - Most losses in a single season in the prem.
    - Worst run of form over 10 games in our prem history.
    - Pardew is statiscally our worst ever manager with 50+ games.

    So for those that want stabiliity and want to keep with him (if there are still any left) then I'm afraid those stats actually show he isn't giving us any stabillity at all.

    Now you can make excuses about injuries, europa league etc...but the fact is we've had much worse teams than this in the past and still played more attractive football. He prefers a direct style of play and we don't have the players for it, we simply aren't a good fit for him as a manager.

    I know it's boring seeing thread after thread about Pardew and how poor he is etc, but some of those stats are truely appalling and shocked even me (probably Pardew's biggest critic).
     
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  2. Keith Fit

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    He should be fired, but we have Ashley in charge. I have seen this all before with Shepherd - so much vitriol aimed at manager after manager before it eventually dawned on everyone that Shepherd was the issue. The same thing will happen here. We will keep Pardew, we will have yet another crap Summer in the transfer window (I reckon at least 5 will leave and around the same or less will come in) then we will watch the inevitable slide down the table until he's sacked around Xmas. However, at that time it will be impossible to bring in a decent manager and we will end up with someone who will still be out of work, such as Glenn Hoddle or Steve McLaren.
     
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    Graham Carr's Binoculars Well-Known Member

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    If he got sacked I'd be excited for next season and thinking we could actually achieve something big. It would literally transform my mood...having said that it would depend who he was replaced by. Appointing Mclaren would be more underwhelming than when we got Kinnear in!
     
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    As I wrote that, I could really, really see Hoddle happening. Think of the links? Spurs AND Chelsea? Out of work so zero compensation? Not likely to find work soon, so will work for peanuts and with a poker up his arse. It's like an Ashley wet dream.

    All I'd really like to see is a glimpse behind the scenes, what are those lunches like between MD and Manager, what analysts or advisors are being used to assess the season, what plans are being mounted ahead of next year - I hate that it's so clandestine, the silence only makes me think that it's all smoke and mirrors.
     
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    I know it's boring seeing thread after thread about Pardew and how poor he is etc, but some of those stats are truely appalling and shocked even me (probably Pardew's biggest critic).

    It's not boring pointing the facts out and I'm sure most of us agree with you.

    We've had a terrible season and with the players we have we could and should have expected better.

    Pards is extremely lucky to have been in charge so long and he'll be luckier still if he's in charge next season.
     
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  6. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Would love to see Hoddle given another chance by someone. His treatment by the FA was a disgrace. Top manager with an impeccable record. Been out of it a long time of course sat in studios and running his soccer camps in Spain which is obviously a negative. I can see the Chelsea link but where is the Spurs link to us or Ashley??
     
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  7. Graham Carr's Binoculars

    Graham Carr's Binoculars Well-Known Member

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    Funny thing is though is that Hoddle plays good football, some of the football he had England playing was the best I've witnessed from our national side. We took Argentina to pens with 10 men, don't think we'd get anywhere close to doing that with 11 men these days.

    Only problem is he's been out of top level management for a long, long time. I would view hoddle as a step up from Pardew where as Mclaren is a side ways step IMO. Lee Clark anyone? Would be cheap and has done good jobs at Huddersfield and Birmingham. Would certainly be afforded time by the fans and is young & enthusiastic. Again he's far from my number one choice by I think he'd bring more to the position than Pardew currently is.
     
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    Graham Carr's Binoculars Well-Known Member

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    Yeah true, we can only hope. I mean I'm digusted with our performances this season but I've only been to one game. Feel for the fans like you that spend thousands travelling the country to witness us play for a draw etc, must be gut wrenching.
     
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    Being devils advocate here.

    Was this season a blip ie we should be top 6 every season.
    or was last season a blip,really we are a middle of the table team.

    Statistically we are the second, apart from a brief spell when Sir Booby was in charge, and remember the team were booed off after drawing with Wolves. We only got 5th place!!!!!

    I am sick of us changing manager constantly, when it proves stability is the best success, apart from Chelsea who just throw money at the problem.
    Normally i would say give Pardew a chance, but this year there appears to be a lot of managers out there who must do a better job than him. My preference would be Benetiz, Winner and proven.
    My gut instinct is he will stay, we will be one of the lowest spenders in the summer, and struggle again.
    Nedders you reckon 5 will leave, don't think there are 5 in our squad who have impressed anyone last season, it would only be on previous form. Class is permanent, form is temporary, unless you play for Newcastle and it appears the other way round. Form is permanent, poor form .Class is temporary, you see odd flashes of brilliance and realise why they are international players.
     
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    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Lee Clark would be a terrible appointment for me. He has done a good job with the two mentioned but he still has loads to learn. The style football would be my concern as it is no great shakes and pretty direct. Given people are moaning about this under Pardew and Clark is probably more direct, I think it would seem foolhardy to pick him.
     
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    One think about Clarkie is that he has passion, and a love of the club. Something that Pardew doesn't have.
     
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    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    We're no where near a top 6 side. If anyone thinks our squad is a top 6 squad, they need their head tested! But we are not a 16th placed squad either. We're a mid table squad, maybe 9th or 10th place. I do think we could challenge for 8th with a bit of tweaking of the balance of the squad and the manager/players actually performing to a level they are capable of.
     
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    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Totally disagree. Pardew clearly loves the club and has plenty of passion. Its the one thing you can't accuse him of to be honest. He may have had a bad season but the guy is clearly passionate about his job, the club and football in general.
     
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    Yeah i agree to be fair, kind of mentioned him because he is a cheaper option and reckon for that reason alone he'd be a consideration for MA & DL. We could do a lot worse than Hoddle though.

    I honestly think Pardew will be kept on though, just don't see him being sacked because of the 8 year contract, not because of any payout clauses but becasue it will make MA & DL look a bit stupid for giving him the 8 years in the first place.
     
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    Disagree as much as you like, it's called opinions and my opinion is that the useless ****ing Cockney bastard is so far up his own arse he hasn't got enough love or passion left for anybody else.
     
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    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Hoddle is a cracking manager who the Englands fans, tabloid newspapers, and FA sold down the river for no good reason. Regardless whether you think his beliefs are a bit crazy, its got nothing to do with football. I don't moan when Jermaine Defoe spouts on about Christianity despite thinking the idea of religion is utterly ridiculous.

    I wonder where our national game would be now if we'd kept him in charge.
     
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    For one thing there'd probably be quite a lot less disabled seating areas.
     
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    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Meoww, saucer of milk for AB
     
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    Don't drink milk, thanks all the same.

    Pretty pointless comment by the way, expect better than that from you.
     
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    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Seats down the front - result!
     
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