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Contracts, management, morale and "soul"

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by TheBigDipper, May 20, 2013.

  1. TheBigDipper

    TheBigDipper Well-Known Member

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    In a normal workplace, staff have contracts to protect their rights as employees. The employer also has rights - which permits the organisation to change things if they need changing. As well as rights, both parties have responsibilities - to themselves and each other.

    About 20 years ago, I spent a train journey chatting with a manager at the Post Office. He told me that his organisation was almost unmanageable. Staff and management had no respect for each other. No manager could speak to an employee about change except through the union rep. Staff conspired to do as little as possible without getting fired and the whole organisation was (in his opinion) dysfunctional, ineffective and morale on all sides was in the toilet.

    Now, I know nothing about the Post Office at that time, except what he told me, but it all sounds a bit familiar right now.

    Why is it not possible for the club to cancel the contracts of players who fail to meet their obligations to the club? Fining a player for failing to get in to work on time is not effective if the player earns the sort of money we know some of them do. They will pay it and laugh. After all, some of them are still children, emotionally. Some will be late on purpose just to show the management that the player does not care and the only sanction the club has is ineffective.

    In my workplace, there are performance-related criteria that must be met (sales targets), action-related criteria (turn up on time and don't start fights with your colleagues) and a whole raft of patterns of behaviour that affect morale and team spirit. If I started arguing with my boss all the time, I would expect to eventually find myself on the verbal/written warning trail and ultimately, dismissal. The same if I took the salary but clearly didn't put in the effort and wasn't delivering the sales figures.

    I've been a Ranger since 1968. When we left the Premier League last time, I stopped paying too much interest to the goings on at that level of football. Yes, I watched games on TV, but never went to a match at that level or looked too hard at what seemed to be going on regarding agents, payments, players and ethics/morals. The past few years running up to promotion and the struggle of the last two seasons has opened my eyes somewhat and I don't like it. Rangers could have won the league this year and I still wouldn't have liked it. Top level football has lost it's soul and I now realise don't really care for it that much. I'm still in love with the Rs, (or at least, what I think the Rs are) but I don't see much of what I love in the team that's turned out over the past two years.

    Do we really have a situation where a player can never be in breach of contract? How can you run a business if the worst thing you can do to a player who has cheated you and your fans is to tell them to stay away and just pay their wages until the contract expires?

    As many have said.... It's the hope that gets you.
     
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  2. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    Cancel their contracts and you forfeit any chance of getting any cash back in the transfer market. Slim chance with this bunch and I agree, player power at the top level is out of control. Yet in the lower leagues, including the Championship, we have honest players on limited salaries - I'd love to see what Yeovil and Bournemouth pay.

    The root cause of this is poor management though.
     
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  3. Didley Squat

    Didley Squat Well-Known Member

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    Very good post here Dipper and as sb_73 has said, but .................. as we stand now, would it be fair to say we would get little in return than what we paid out, however, if TF did cancel a few contracts, he has lost nothing from here on end. ( He would have to pay the bludger any more ) ............ and they would hamstring our team for next season, which must now be the more worrying thing.
     
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  4. Queenslander!!

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    Swords or Secret ?....you choose
     
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    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    Neither, Dippers been around for ages, just doesn't post much.
     
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  6. Queenslander!!

    Queenslander!! Well-Known Member

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    really? Newbie & 28 posts?!!

    I'll take your word for it stan
     
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    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    Join date may 2011. Long time to keep a sleeper account.
     
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  8. TheBigDipper

    TheBigDipper Well-Known Member

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    I'm a real person. I just don't post unless I've got something I feel is worth saying. :)
     
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  9. TheBigDipper

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    I was on 606 as well... I came here when the BBC shut it down.
     
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  10. GoldhawkRoad

    GoldhawkRoad Well-Known Member

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    Your OP sets the tone for pre-season discussion on this board, Big D. There's going to a lot of legal, contractual etc stuff aired before the start of the new season. TF and his crew will have to grasp the nettle and get rid of the problem players by one means or another
     
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  11. Queenslander!!

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    Sorry, that's not good enough for some of us...you have to eclare your hatred for Adel or analy rape him, sing the magic hat song and personally pay for flights and a season ticket for me next season ( I can sort out transport to the ground) for "some to accept you as a real fan....

    Are you willing to abide by these conditions...send me our bank account details and I'll sort out ST's
    Cheers <ok>
     
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  12. Vale_Hoops

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    No disagreement from me Dipper all seems little unfair, manager sacked for poor performance but you still have to pay he wages...players paid for the rubbish we've seen this season.

    It all needs to be moved to flat lower wages with realistic performance related bonuses for squad (ie league position) and individuals but is there a brave club out there to do this.....
     
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