The 2 rugby teams wouldn't go part time if they got relegated * If relegation existed in the ****ing stupid system. How a team finishing 8th can be crowned champions of the country whilst the team that come top of the league get nowt is beyond me.
What REALLY annoys me about this is the Assem Allam subsidises their inbred little club with 6 figure sums every season and all he gets for that is abuse. As I said earlier the sooner we cut them adrift the better.
You have a problem with this statement as from my experience you are one of biggest perpetrators of the belittlement of Rugby League on this forum. That is one Mother of an opinion but it is, afterall, Mothers Day in Aus today.
The system has flaws, but to begin with it made sense, the second division was almost all part time so the club who got relegated would come straight back up, and the promoted team would get relegated. When Rovers stayed up they were the first team for about 8 years to survive after promotion so something had to change. The team finishing top does get advantages in the play-offs and a trophy, but the emphasis is on the Grand Final and teams know that at the start of the season. On the finishing 8th thing, they needed a way to have competitive games through the season without relegation, but I agree that you shouldn't be able to win the league from the bottom half of the comp. 6 teams would be right for me.
We have loads of issues with the tubbylards, FC not Rovers, most of them have mocked us since the late 70's when they had some limited success until the KC was built and we grew into the successfull club we knew we could be and they stagnated and continued their underachievement. If they are big teams in Super League how long ago did either of our clubs win it? Truth is they've been lost souls since the Boulevard closed and grown bitter and envious of our upward trajectory. This wouldn't have mattered to us apart from tubbylards holding positions of power in the local media and at the city council propagating myths about the Hull RL derby being world famous, the 'atmosphere' and it being a family sport. Compare policing and sentencing of trouble at football and rugby, absolutely shocking. Compare disproportionate coverage by Radio Humberside. Compare the tubbylard atmosphere with the Cardiff game, the excitement of St Helens coming to town or Manchester Utd and Chelsea? The football v RL arguments have become tedious after 2008 and yet these Hull FC dinosaurs cling to power at the council and have insulted our greatest benefactor and still stand in City's way of progress and expansion. The parochial mentality of rugby league still casts a shadow across our great city and holds it back.
Great post. I think clapper and John being exiles don't fully get how much **** we as locals have to put up with over the years.
One of my very favourite things is that each of 'the world famous and massively successful Hull rugby clubs' have had about the same success as Batley, a suburb of Leeds. Outside of the city neither are considered big players in the world of rugby, at least we KNOW our place in our sport. And the fact that we've never won anything yet still get bigger crowds than them says everything about whether Hull is a rugby or football town / city.
As a Tigers fan and a Hull FC fan I can safely say that the City of Hull IS a Rugby League City Before you jump on that statement form me. I can Also safely that the City of Hull IS a Football City. All the teams involved in this stupid argument have brought many positive times to the City ... and all of the teams at one time or another have just about gone out of business So FFS get over it................ It doesn't mater in the slightest. To all the sporting fans of our great City keep supporting your team and you don't have to justify the sport or team you like to any Bastard.!!!!
Never mind, they'll have the KC all to themselves when Papa pulls the plug and builds City's new stadium at Melton.
The problem with some of the RL followers in this city is that they support Hull or Rovers in rugby, but for some unfathomable reason opt for a Top 4 club as their chosen football team. I appreciate that some local RL fans have no football team (and adopt a positive/indifferent/hostile attitude to City). I also appreciate that some local RL fans do actively support City in words and deeds. But the unpalatable fact is that in this city we have a 5th column who wish nothing but failure on City, who have ridiculed them for years & brought up their kids in the same way. This city is modest in size by Premiership standards (- it is certainly the poorest unless Stoke have beaten us to that honour). With these two disadvanatges, it makes it even harder to compete with places like Sunderland where every male, female, animal and business buys into supporting the local club with every sinew and penny possible. Why is ours the only city that handicaps itself in this way? Are some of our fellow citizens in the comfort zone of expecting failure and so dissociate themselves from HCFC? If so, do we really want them on our side, and if we do, how do we de-brainwash them out of all the negative, self-hating ****e they have in their DNA?
Good points but saying all that I always hope both rugby clubs fail miserably. I ****ing love it when they lose, but does that come as a reaction to the attitude from them to us that you refer to? Two wrongs don't make a right but I wont be changing. I hate the ****s.
How can you support your local club in one sport but hate it in another? Do you have Hull in RL, Leeds in football, India in cricket, Wales in RU etc? Does the chance of likely success influence these options? If I meet an RL fan who exhibits this schizo behaviour, I try and discover the rationale for the choices. I suggest he should Wigan Warriors, West Germany in the WC etc It nearly always 'whooooshes' over their heads as their thought processes are not sufficiently analytical to engage with the issue.
You miss the point though. Nobody's suggesting you shouldn't follow your chosen sport. Yo should, and you should enjoy doing it.
Sorry DMD don't think I have missed the point. There are many arguments and Dick swinging going on. My point is both sports have done there bit for the city and have had difficulties. Is it a Rugby city or a football City the answer is simple It's both and 1,000's of people turn up every week to prove it. That is my point!!
