Barton Contract

It has been said that the club offered Barton a two year deal with an option of a third.

Am I the only one who thinks this is a fairly decent offer for a player who, although has had a stand-out season in my book, has had his fair share of issues in the past and is 29at the start of the new season!!

According to "SAUCES".....Joey is after a 4 year deal with an option of a 5th....not sure anyone would give a player of his age that kind of deal as a new signing! Just a thought!

 

Part of me thinks Ashley is in the wrong and not offering a good enough contract to one of our stand out performers. The other half of me however, looks at Bartons ages and thinks the deal on the table is more than good enough and he should stop being an arse and sign. As much as I love Joey, I also think he should sign any contract offered after we (the fans and the club) stuck by him through all his troubles in the past. Does he forget the club still paid him £50k a week while he was at her majestys pleasure!!

 

If true then I agree. What are the sources for this information out of interest?

I've said on another post that I am suspicious of Barton's motives in suddenly feeling the need to suggest we need new owners within a day of negotiations breaking down, yet he had not felt the need to warn us of this so long as negotiations were ongoing. I also suspect that he would never have felt the need to warn us had he agreed the deal to his satisfaction.

I would like to know the club's side of the story on this.

 

We will never know the truth. Just like with Andy Carroll. At the end of the day, we just have to ride the roller coaster and hope we don't throw up!

 

No, its a disgrace. He is giving everyone else 5 year deals. Joey will take a pay cut for a long deal which is reasonable. If anything he should be getting a pay rise after the season he had. He is willing to take a pay cut though so the FCB should meet his demands for the length of the contract.

 

He gives piles of **** like Pardew, Ranger and Williamson 5.5 year contracts like cup cakes but he doesn't give our best player a 4 year contract?

Barton is in his prime NOW, a 4 year contract would take him to 32 which probably isn't a retiring age yet.

Barton is worth the 4 year contract and should be given one. He agreed to take a pay cut, so don't say he should shut up and sign. He's agreed to the conform to the wage structure, and Mike Ashley should look at what would have happened to us without Barton this season, and think again before denying Barton his desired contract.

 

I sense a revolution coming!!!! A rapture for the FCB only ha!

 

At the end of the day, we just have to ride the roller coaster and hope we don't throw up!
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That's the point, all the uncertainty about what's going on is making us feel like throwing up.

 

It would only take him to around 32. It's hardly like they're risking a contract which would keep him until he's 35+.

How many top midfielders do you know who have been past it by the age of 32?

 

Disagree Tash,
I think Barton should just shut up and sign. He owes it to the club.
If he loved the club that much he would sign the contract offer and
try and negotiate an extension next year.

 

I'm not bigging up MA. I am pointing out the obvious manipulation being carried out by Barton and his agent. He is playing on the emotions of the fans to try and get us to fight his cause for him and sod the fallout that the club could receive in the media. His comments could put off decent players from wanting to sign for us and it is my opinion that Barton's comments about us buying the club are motivated by self interest in order the get the contract he wants and not because he thinks it is in the interests of us or the club.

I am a big fan of Barton as a footballer and would love him to stay with us for the rest of his career but not at any price and I think his manipulation of the fans is underhand. As a person he has gone down in my estimation as a result of doing it.

 

So just because a player loves the club, he should just take what ever contract is available? That's complete ****e mate.

It's as bad as a player holding a club to ransome.

Everyone around the club wants Joey Barton to sign apart from the fat **** incharge.

Barton is an inform midfielder and has even agreed to take a pay cut, that shows how much he wants to stay, but that doesn't mean he should sign any contract that pushed under his nose, and then if he doesn't sign it that means he doesn't love the club.

He's even said he's going to stay for his last season because he loves it up here, and no way is he being sold. How does that not show he loves being here?

I agree fully with Barton. Barton owes nothing to the club now. He made up for his prison days by saving us from relegation, which would have dismantled this club and ****ed it royally.

Once again the owners show no appreciation for the ****ing hard work an effort a person has put into the club.

 

1st point - I didn't say he doesnt love the club
2nd point - I'm glad your not running the club.
So because he's had a good season this year (not counting the mickey mouse league) you would
give a soon to be 29 a 4year contract with wages around 50K a week? Technically he is holding the club to ransom over the length of contract. This is why the
club nearly went bankrupt with fat fred in charge. I actually think Ashley is doing the right thing.

 

A) Barton did not single handedly keep us up, you keep banging on about this but you are wrong. I seem to remember a team of eleven players playing in all the games I saw, together with two good managers and a backroom staff helping out too.
B) Two years with a third as an option is not a bad deal for somebody of his age and history. Despite the great efforts he has made this season we would be naive not to acknowledge that Barton is only ever one fit or rage away from a prison sentence or a lengthy ban. To expect that this not be taken into account is unrealistic.
C) Based upon my answer for a) (above) yes he does still owe us for the time we stuck with him when he was in prison and for giving him the chance to resurrect his career when most in the industry wanted to hang him out to dry.

 

So what if he's nearly 29? A 4 year contract would end on him being 32, which doesn't mean he's going to be a crippled old man at that age.

You said if he really loved the club he would sign the contract offer and try and negotiate an extension, i say **** that and so is Barton.

Barton is at his peak now, and has been our man of the season by far, and just because of that, i would give him a new contract.

He's always been a quality player, and this season he had his chance to prove it and he turned himself around.

Even though i love Newcastle, if i was playing for them and i was in form and doing well at the club, i wouldn't just want to be a bitch to the owners every season with them saying "crackin season but we're not offering you a long term deal, we'll give you a new 1 year contract and we'll give you an extension if you do well".

In return of your commitment to the club, the club should committ itself to you. Long contracts should be given out to those that deserve them, not like the way Ashley gives them out to get a higher price for that player if he sells them.

Barton wants to be here for the rest of his career, and i trust him. It's not like he's 32 now and his contract wou;d take him to his late 30's, then i would understand, but he's not old and he still wont be old at the end of his desired contract.

 

There is a world of a difference between giving a 21 year old a five year deal, and giving one to a 29 year old.

In my humble opinion, what Barton is holding out for is too much, although I appreciate that, if reports are to be believed, he has indicated a willingness to accept £50,000 a week, instead of the £65,000 a week he is currently on.

However, a three year deal, with an option on a fourth, would appear to be a reasonable compromise. No?

 

He's not getting a 3 year deal with an option of a 4th, he's reportadly only getting a 2 year deal.

At the end of the day, he's not asking for big wages, he loves the club and will play on with us next year no matter what, if he doesn't like the proposed 2 year deal then i wont hold a grudge if he doesn't stay on.

He deserves better. It's not everyday you find a player of Barton's quality that wants to take a pay cut to stay, but also wants to stay on long term.

 

Barton's a difficult case but trying to keep aside my prejeudices, this is my view.

1. Been watching football for years and apart from Man U in 90's never seen any young team ever develop into a really good one. You need experince in the mix somewhere so shouldn't get too caught up in keeping the average age down if it means losing good players.

2. Joey Barton owes NUFC more than NUFC owes Joey Barton. He's picked up £60k per week for 3 years and produced sweet FA and was never available when we needed him when we went down and we still stood by him; but had a really good season this time round.

3. He'll still be around next season which is good news, but we might lose him the year after which at the moment is bad news but by next year might not be so bad.

4. Things change, the owners won't so don't hold your breath, but attitudes might, both their's and Joey's.

5. Lets just leave it alone and get on with other things now.

 

Actually, I think this is spot on! Have some rep

 

Agreed, we've all been arguing this for days and we always come to the same thing which is disagreement, so lets agree to disagree, and just hope the club and Barton get sorted out soon.