The goal was NOT dissallowed for a Distain push on Carragher It was a foul on Reina by Anichebe the ref told Anichebe so... So there Is your 2 penneth blown out of the water as Gerrez rightly says take your red tinted glasses off... I am shocked Brenda agreed with the ref's decision he looked a little coy saying It as well and has made himself look a right plank by doing so at least Moyes said at GP that we had got away with one... And as far as Fellaini goes If he'd have caught an LFC player with his elbow they would have hit the deck no doubt look at Reina he fell over all on his own lol
Moyes after not being able to score after the whistle was blown with 37 minutes still to play; It's a conspiracy! Moyes after Liverpool's goal wrongly given offside with 37 seconds still to play; We shouldn't have had the free kick in the first place because
The ref can still see big 6ft+ ***got goal keeper fall over **** all though surely?? As for Fellaini and 3 reds what a load of tosh If he had been ellbowing as you cry babies state there's no doubt one of your lot would have hit the deck clutching their face you only have to look at Reina falling over to see that? Besides that we have both been robbed of victory against each other this season so 1-1 lol
Which is correct btw. In any case the referee's incorrect call yesterday, has no relevance to the linesman's flag at Goodison, but seeing as you're clinging onto it, & even trying to make it into worse call due to the timeframe (lol), then you can surely remember the fact, that old gnasher should have been in the bath at the time of that 'goal'. After he's stamped on Mirallas foot & put him out of the game & then achilles raked Distin. So that decision was karma.
"And as far as Fellaini goes If he'd have caught an LFC player with his elbow they would have hit the deck no doubt look at Reina he fell over all on his own lol" And some people on here need to take off their blue-tinted specs. He's lucky both Agger and Gerrard didn't make a fuss of two elbows (hand-off in the face, which it technically a sending-off). Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they didn't: I've alluded to the point further up the thread that I'm happy that in Carra's last derby there was virtually no play-acting from either side. But you saying that as Agger and Gerrard didn't roll around on the floor, ergo there wasn't a foul reinforces the Suarez-type belief that in order to get a decision you have to act like an hysterical tart.
Let the bitterness flow Astro... I thought according to expert Astro you would be miles ahead now In the league mind your better than Brenda Guardiola he said you could get 2nd at one point lol
I would say that you need to take your blue tinted glasses off for that but since they didn't show the three blatant & deliberate elbows and you didn't watch the game I'll just give you one of these... Edit: for some reason, I thought I was responding to Tobes
And things would have been different with Fellaini red carded too. The point about the time frame is only because it cannot be called a potential "winning" goal with almost half the game still remaining. It doesn't make it a worse decision. What DOES makes the Suarez decision slightly worse is that the linesman blew for something he DIDN'T see (because he couldn't have seen Suarez offside when he wasn't), whereas the referee yesterday blew for something he did see but (in your opinion) misinterpreted. Yesterday's decision wasn't "karma", it was a straightforward application of the rules; consistently foul in the box so the referee has to speak to you on every corner and you will have free kicks given against you.
Fellaini needs to watch his elbows, he's largely cut it out of his game this season, but he was fired up yesterday & you could see he was bubbling at times. Having said that I thought the commentators totally over blew the 'offences' as there was little or no contact on either of them & the 'hand off' is something you'll see in every week, there was nothing in that. I agree about the spirit the game was played in, made a change tbh, as there's been far too much of the snide dives etc in recent derbies. Anichebe deserved a smack for that crap one he put in towards the end, the big Mary.
Of course its a potential winning goal. Walcott's for Arsenal on Saturday was scored after 21 seconds and it won the game! If a goal is scored putting a team in the lead then it has the potential to be the winning goal. The key is in the word 'potential'
I didn't say yesterdays decision was karma, I said it was karma that the Suarez 'goal' didn't stand, as he shouldn't have been on the pitch to score it. As for Anichebe you're talking ****e again, as the referee spoke to Enrique & Anichebe about the holding in the box, which was being lead by Enrique who was trying to stop Anichebe standing in front of Reina (which is a tactic most sides use at corners btw ) The referee saw Reina fall over & assumed he'd been fouled, when the replays clearly show that he wasn't. It was a perfectly good goal & only the most bitter & deluded are arguing to the contrary.
I think all three elbows where deliberate. Not one was a natural movement IMO and they all hit their targets in the face too. Funny how the focus is on Reina for going down like a sack of spuds but not much mention for the three lads staying on their feet I think Lucas was lucky to escape a booking when he went in late of Osman in the first half too. I suspect the referee was taking the heat of the game into account, Gerrard went in for a few early on too, maybe he was doing similar for Felliani?
Always used to look forward to the Merseyside derbies, but not anymore, not the same passion there used to be, main reason i feel is too many foreign players on both sides who dont understand about the bragging rights on Merseyside, but they do understand fat pay packets tho.
Reina didn't dive imo, he just fell. I thought the referee did very well in the first half, it's a derby & there's always going to challenges that are borderline, it's part of the game ffs & I hate that it's being sanitised by overly fussy refereeing. So it made a change to see a young ref, giving a foul but keeping his cards in his pocket. Gerrard, Osman, Lucas & Fellaini were all guilty of challenges that on another day could have seen action taken against them, but the referee understood the occasion & he deserves credit for that imo.
I never said he dived either, he just wasn't strong enough. Same goes for Carragher against Distin at the same time Its part of the reason we are so **** at set-pieces. I was ****ting bricks every time you guys got a corners of free kick near our box, Felliani and Distion were always going to have a field day in these situations.
Yeah that was unclear, I meant "potential" in terms of it being a goal or not, rather than in terms of it potenitally winning the game if it had been given. Of course if it had been given (assuming the referee didn't blow the whistle to stop play in the first place) and then there was no response from us it would have been the winner. But with 37 minutes left there is so much scope for things to change that it's affect on the result is far more uncertain than the Suarez attempt.
I agree with this but I don't want our game to turn into what we saw with Juventus' behaviour at corners against Celtic. So I am happy for referees to be strict about this. In fact, I would prefer that if a referee sees an attcker foul (wrestle, push, pull shirt etc.) a defender during a corner build up, then a free kick should be awarded before the corner is even taken. Similarly, if the opposite happens in the build up then just award a penalty.
Of course, but then, any goal scored after 85mins is usually just called the winning goal by commentators
So no red cards for Everton players = good refereeing, fail to send Liverpool player off = bad refereeing. And you accuse everyone else of being biased If Suarez had played and done what Fellaini did yesterday and thrown a couple of elbows in you'd be screaming for a red card and a long suspension.