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Fannies Against Criminalisation

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  1. Null

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    Watching football : have a beer or two before hand (if you drink alcohol), go to the game, watch game whilst cheering on team and sing some football based chants, leave game, have few more beers (again if you like booze).. go home.

    Simply really <ok>

    Naw .. of course not! <doh>
     
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    My Darling?
     
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    Their concerns are wholly justified because monies earmarked for supposedly anti-sectarian initiatives in being directed into the covert and overt surveilance of football supporters. Thus failing to address that issue.

    Their concerns are wholly justified because law abiding football supporters are being arrested under this ridiculous legislation.

    Their concerns are wholly justified because law abiding football supporters are being charged under this ridiculous legislation.

    Their concerns are wholly justified because law abiding football supporters are being subjected to football banning orders because of this ridiculous legislation.

    Your experience of going to football in a law abiding manner is not being reflected and enjoyed across the board with all law abiding football supporters.

    Utter nonsense. Laws didn't have to be brought in at all. If the people you are referring to as having "chips" on their shoulder are the supporters of FAC such as the Green Brigade then the laughable ZERO% conviction rate should tell you all you your sentiments are sorely misguided[/quote]

    Is there a suggestion that it is not being used "across" the board now?

    The law should be scrapped. It is clearly and demonstrably a failure.
     
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    I don't understand the point of this post. I haven't heard it mooted anywhere that FAC have been doing anything other than you suggest.

    Unless of course you are referencing the incompetent members of the Police whose misapplication of the ****tily drafted legislation has interfered with people doing as you have said?
     
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    I guess you miss the point I made...sing football based chants?If this was done, no one would end up falling foul of the law... pretty ****in simple.No one has been arrested for singing "Celtic" or "Walk On" "Grand Old Team" have they...
     
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    I am afraid I still miss the point you are making.

    No one is falling foul of the law.
     
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    You believe it right that people sing irish history and political songs (not football based chants) at football. I dont, especially Scotch folk...



    We'll always differ. No point in engaging each other in a discussion on it.

    One point we agree, stupid creating new legislation but I do think the existing legislation wasnt getting applied hard enough for my liking.
     
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    I don't know what that has to do with this.

    Existing legislation could have been used to combat a number of crimes. What it would not have done is presented equal numbers of "Old Firm" fans as falling foul of any law. That is not paranoia, it is the stated ambition of Christine Grahame MSP. If you remember, she got destroyed by Professor Tom Devine on this very subject but it made no difference. She is herself the subject of allegations of sectarianism.

    By introducing this legislation the thinking was that proportionate numbers of the support of all clubs could be targeted. So they invented crimes where there were none and are now incapable of identifying and policing them. It is a sham.
     
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    You know more about this legislation and how its being applied, FAC etc than me...


    So, I'll bow out of talking about it as I dont care enough.
     
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    Is there a suggestion that it is not being used "across" the board now?

    The law should be scrapped. It is clearly and demonstrably a failure.[/QUOTE]

    what a load of ****e. The truth is that there is sectarian behaviour at football matches on a weekly basis. FAC are a shower of ****s with too much time on their hands that believe that they can behave how they damn well please simply because they are 'supporting their team'.

    the law should be amwnded and made stricter so that the scratters arrested for sectarian singing, pro-terrorist guff, pissing in the streets, fighting, vandalism etc. are convicted and they can be weeded out from the decent supporters

    **** them. If they behave themselves there's np need to worry. If theres a zero percent conviction rate, again, why worry? If they haven't done anything wrong then they'll walk even if charged. That's how justice works. Its really not that difficult.
     
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    Pud throws in the towel.

    RB replies with a massive counter

    <laugh><laugh><lastword>:emoticon-0173-middl
     
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    Seems to me the prevailing feeling on Not606 from both sides of the Old Firm is that FAC are a bunch of whining little bitches who should concentrate on the fitba and get down off their high horse before some drunken Dog Rapist punches **** oot of it.
     
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    You haven't made a point here.

    There are existing laws that can deal with these things.

    Why worry? You take a trip to Inverness, you get arrested for no reason, you get charged for no reason. You get asked to appear in Inverness for no reason and suffer the inconvenience of having to go all the way there. You are subjected to. A football banning order for no reason in effect from the date of the (non) offence to the date you appear. I am sure you will agree that you were mistaken when you say there is np need to worry.
     
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    <laugh> Come on now, really? In 20+ years of going to football matches, i have NEVER had a single run-in with any police. Not once. This is generally because I go to watch the football rather than arrive pished, act the **** then climb my high horse when i'm told to tone it down.
    Incidentally, the only time i've had run-ins at games has been when we've had our seats overrun by drunken fannies trying to be part of the GB and drunken fannies who ARE a part of the GB.

    Your example of going to Inverness, being arrested for "no reason" :)confused:) etc is laughable. At best it comes across as scaremongering. I have NO REASON to worry when i go to football games, Home or Away, BECAUSE I DON'T ACT LIKE A COMPLETE FANNY.
     
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    And those that are acting like a complete fanny are NOT acting illegalky so should not be treated as though they are.
     
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    Roll of Honour ... is this a football based chant?
     
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    Act like a fanny, get treated like a fanny.

    It's no a hard concept to grasp. Just because these fannies have gotten away with fannyish behaviour in the past means sweet **** all.

    Time, rules, laws and acceptable behaviours all change. Most fans don't want pished-up bams singing ****e about free Ireland or keeping Northern Ireland British. Most fans want to watch the fitba
     
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    No. So what
     
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