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  1. Queenslander!!

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    Normaly PD I agree with your posts, but you've just mAnaged to make youself look a right cock..!

    what has mike basset got to do with anything? if that's your tyope of football then good luck to you ; but many others Flyer, judo, col,. yorkie will prove my point that I prefer LA LIGA TO ANY OTHER AND HAVE FOR MANY YEARS.

    tAKE YOU TONGUE OUT OF T's arse and accept he has been ****, as have a lot of the team
    Not sure what the rest of your drivel is about or has any relevance to, but facts are, our players have not performed. face it mate..they have ALL been rubbish,...even the ones you worship.

    Got half way through reading about rooney & torres and got bored. What do they do for QPR?

    Not sure of your point (prob because I cant be arsed to read he drivel) but I'm guessing that you love AT.
    He could be good again, but he could be ****e.
    Wouldlove to give you a decent answer but your post bored me at he Rooney bit

    Sorry

    Try posting again and make it relevant to OUr TEAM....<ok>
     
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  2. herlja66

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    This is an absolutely exceptional post Damage!!! The best I've seen to date! I was going to make a similar point last night when I read queenslanders comment but decided against it as I couldn't be f*cked.. As he is a tiresome person to deal with
     
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  3. herlja66

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    What a pathetic response "ill pretend like I didn't read the whole thing and claim I got bored"

    Never has the profile of Mike Bassett fitted anyone so appropriately as this Queenslander fellow, in fact that probably does Bassett a disservice as he did get us to the Semis of the WC in the film at least!!!
     
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  4. Queenslander!!

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    mate, what are you talking about? I have never seen the film with mike basset 7 I haven't read PD's reply. I will now because onlt then will I have a f-ing clue what you muppets are going on about.
    I respect Pd enough to know that his post are usually well written & very close to the mark. they obviously cant be spot on of he'd be our manager!

    TBH..i rerally couldn't give a toss about Rooney & torres, so I HONESTLY stopped reading.
    Like I said , PD usually has some really good input, I personally just thought it was crap and honestly got bored...so shoot me for telling the truth.

    As for you 66...you have managed to create friction, isolate international fans, put us down & show up on the mods radar all in one brief stint.

    I would say it would be good to get to know you, but my gut tells me you wont be around for long!

    Maybe try WATRB..the put internationals down as well as allowing racism, sexism, abuse & ignorance...they would love you over in fantasy island.

    i'll say goodbye now as I may not see you again. For my point of view, the ONLY good things you have going for you is that you like an argument & you support QPR.
    As a person, I wont say what I think of you, but then again I don't really know you. I can only judge you by your comments towards me and other posters and to be honest, they make you look like a complete prick!!
    rest assured, I am not the only person with this view.
    you are young, you'll learn & im sure at some stage before you get banned, you will offer up an apology to those you have already insulted.
    im not gonna tell you why or when, that's for you to work out!

    good luck. I'm off to give PD's post the respect he deserves & has earned.
    <ok>
     
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  5. Queenslander!!

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    PD..ignoring the insults, as they really bother me as much as they do the mods...I have gone back and read this all the way through.
    What you say is completely correct & AT will give us a much better chance of winning the league. I already stated that in another post.
    I get what you are sying about torres 7 Rooney & cant argue with any of that.
    what I was saying (& said) was that following 2 disastrous seasons in the prem, their is now guarantee that At will deliver as before (assuming he is with us). I said we have to use him but not base the whole team around him as before. That's why we were f-'d when we did go up. The other 2 teams that went up with us did immeasurably better because they we not based around a "1 man team " system...and they didn't have that welsh f**k!

    AGAIN, I don't have anything against AT, how could I? I've never met the bloke. It all stems from the past when we got promoted & I said I didn't think he would cut it in the Prem. Well he hasn't has he? be honest. For what ever reason ( and there are many). He's had a chance to get out "apparently"! barca, PSG, Arsenal, Man Utd have al apparently looked at him!!
    if you believe that then I feel sorry for you.
    I said we give him a chance to prove himself again & if he don't deliver then he's on the bench. Same as all others. If we all agree with that then why do we have this thread proclaiming him as the new messiah..why not jenas, Clint or A.N.Other?

    Be good if he stays but I aint bothered if he leaves either.
     
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  6. Peter Damage

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    Queens I did not insult you, I simply said your argument is stupid and your constant sniping at Adel are based on a non-point. I still believe that to be true.

    Just wrote and then deleted a lengthy couple of paragraph's explaining why it is another crazy statement to say he hasn't "cut it in the prem". Really is exhausting as i'm not sure how you define it in order to arrive at that ludicrous conclusion but a much more brief response based on a couple of recent examples of why your wrong is:
    1) Fulham away, he had a bad game but still scored a goal, and won a penalty!! Not many players who "cant cut it in the prem" could do that.

    2) West Ham away. Put him in a team with good players and you watch how good he really is. Saw that within 10 mins against West Spam. Superb through ball to out Remy through 1 on 1 to cap a top class goal. His ball to give DJ an open goal 5 yards out in the United home game last year sums up how the players around him (to an extent) limit him here over the last few years (and DJ is one of the better strikers he has played with here so was at least clever enough to make that run)

    You jumped into this thread to moan at those who wanted us to put him in the team and even you now realise we should. That's as close to an admission we're likely to get from you that you are wrong so that's a positive at least. You've managed to caveat it with he doesn't play well he's on the bench... Well yep you can have that, not many are going to disagree with that...

    Nobody said he's the new messiah. Your need for such a severe exaggeration highlights that you might have a weak point.
     
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  7. Queenslander!!

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    Mate, you have kind of missed the point haven't you..
    So he had 2 good games in 2 seasons, that means he can cut it in the Prem. I bet if I gae you 2 season, you could have 2 good games.
    Wow he played well against west ham (another newly promoted team) and he apparently played wel against fulhasm- no he didn't, he was lucky to get the ball from Cm but finished sublimely. he'd never get that ball against any decent CM as has been proven for the last 2 seasons

    im getting bore with the "if he had better players around him ****" How come Remy and Andros proved themselves to be absolute class with the same players around then? Why hasn't he been snapped up by a better, bigger team, Why did we do better under HR when he wasn't playing?
    Simple answer mate...he cant cut it.
    Please post the 2 paragraphs you wrote & lest hope it explains the last few questions I asked.
    So are you saying HR doesn't know what hes doing by having him on the bench? really.
    Didn't one of you guys post that he was one of the best managers on the country.?

    Im sorry PD. id love him to be fantastic and carry us to safety, but fact is he isn't good enough. I openly accept that all the tea have not delivered this season..except Remy & Andros but we are talking about Adel. I really hope he does helps to glory, but personally Im not sure he will.

    In effect...He's been put in the position and the questions have been asked...he has got a C- must try harder so far.

    Of course i'l cheer him if he scores against anyone, as I will any player including SWP...why wouldn't I?

    you honestly believe people on this board do not hail him as the new messiah? Don't you remember the post saying he was to good for Barcelona?

    Stop picking your points to prove your beliefs. look at what he has done in the last 2 seasons. If you are honestly happy with what he has done and achieved, then that's your choice 7 your opinion, BUT don't tell me he has set the league alight as was predicted and promised.
    now I aint gonna be arsed to go back and find individual posts, but you know as well as I do (if your honest) that some of the posts regarding his talent and what he was going to achieve..were scandalously deluded to say the least.

    PD I enjoy reading your posts, so lets not make this personal. We both have very different views (and that's ok). Ive read your points & put mine across. its up to you to accept them..or not

    Good luck bruv <ok>
     
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  8. petesupahoops

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    In amongst this bickering, Carlos you raised an excellent football point. Any team has to be built from the back and I doubt come next season's kick off we'll have few defenders good enough still at the club. So you're quite right. There are players good enough.. I'm confident Harry will be on to this early in the summer.
     
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  9. herlja66

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    Ill be taking a few days off as I feel depressed and crestfallen after the Stoke game. Naturally I have much to say to you Queens, but if I'm honest I can't be arsed to waste time and energy debating issues about such a useless bunch of C*NTS who happen to wear our beloved shirt. I have nothing positive to say.


    Till next time
     
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  10. Queenslander!!

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    Fair enough bruv...think we all feel the same right now.

    See you on the other side for a "healthy debate" ! <ok>

    good luck mate!
     
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  11. Swords Hoopster.

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    I couldn't disagree more with the OP if I tried. Not only do I not think next season "hinges on" keeping Taarabt but I believe we must get rid of him ASAP.

    Now I know the NPC is his level as he proved that three years ago but at that time, COLIN decided to build his team around him and indulge him to the fullest. Redknapp will simply not do this. The Manager seems to have an opinion of the player more in line with the likes of Queens and myself, IE that he's grotesquely overrated and tends to be more a hindrance to the team than a help.

    Taarabt's net contribution over these two seasons has been practically nil. For the measly few goals he scored or assists he got, in 90% of the games he spent the entire time surrendering possession and putting the rest of the team under huge pressure. He also clogged up a place in the side which would have been utilised by another player. I can't help but wonder what the outcome might have been if we had a couple of proper players like Andy Townsend in the side from the get go and less of the "all show and no substance" type players that we ended up with. I think Swansea and to a lesser extent, Norwich, have showed what the result might have been.

    Upon promotion two years ago, a small number of people (including Queens) made the prediction that Taarabt would struggle at this level and despite receiving heavy criticism at the time, they have been proved entirely correct. I make no secret of the fact that when I hear his name on the team sheet, it sends me into a mild depression because I know what he'll do and what he won't. Honestly, I just can't bear to have this guy at the Club. I think its time we cashed in and let him become someone else's problem and we can get back to building a proper team without any egotistical show ponies infecting the side.

    Redknapp has failed in his objective and for that I'm disappointed in him but the one thing about his continued reign that cheers me up is that we won't have to suffer this lad's ineptness for much longer. I think Harry will show him the door as soon as he gets a half-decent offer. And it won't be a moment too soon.
     
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  12. Rollercoaster Ranger

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    Swords, did you think that we looked more likely to score after he went off last Saturday?
     
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  13. Swords Hoopster.

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    No. But we didn't look likely to score with him there either. There are many individual games we could both pick out to bolster our respective arguments, for example I could cite the two back to back wins, but with reference to the entire two Prem seasons he's had with us, I honestly think his input has been to the detriment of our team, squad and Club as a whole.

    Time to part ways.
     
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  14. Busy Being Headhunted

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    we must not forget the goals Taarabt scored to help us win the championship, he could do it again
     
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  15. Rollercoaster Ranger

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    Indeed we can both pick games to fit out arguments, but without him and Townsend we were absolutely clueless. We won't have Townsend next season, and, as it happens, I agree that it is time for Adel to go, but I say that for his sake not ours, so where do you see us going from here? Would you try to find another QPR No 10? Or a team of solid workmen?
     
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  16. Swords Hoopster.

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    I think its unfair on Andy Townsend to compare him to Taarabt. He's had more of an impact in the last couple of months than Taarabt had in two whole years.

    Where do we go from here? If I had my way I'd have a huge cull of the current squad but the problem is there's so many wasters on huge contracts with no relegation clauses written in. Nevertheless, I'd try to shift as many of them as I could and get them off the wage bill and out of the Club - Taarabt included. Keeping a solid NPC "core" of committed players, I'd then try to recruit some young, hungry and promising players from the Football League (and abroad if they're good enough) and start again from scratch. Our current squad is rotten to the core and this talk from Phil Beard about keeping as many of the current lot as possible in order to bounce straight back up is total madness and delusion on a grand scale. This crowd of fraudsters wouldn't get it up for an FA Cup final, never mind a wet tuesday night in Barnsley.

    One thing's for certain: The egos and chancers have got to be eliminated from the squad or we haven't a hope in hell of ever getting back up.
     
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  17. rangercol

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    If you had your way we'd have an entire team of Mackies. Answer Roller's question. Would you like to see another classic No10 if Taarabt leaves?
     
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  18. Kilburn

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    Hello Swords, long time no see - In my opinion not at all fair comment on Adel and everything he has contributed these past three seasons when in some games he was our only player showing any sort of committment. Also he was part of our NPC "core", plus Faurlin?
     
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  19. Swords Hoopster.

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    (1) Incorrect

    (2) I wouldn't mind seeing a classic number 10, no. But not another one because Taarabt isn't one. However, I actually don't think its necessary to have one of those players to be successful in the NPC. I think that having a couple of good wingers in the Townsend mould, coupled with a decent centre forward, is preferable to the system Roller suggests. Going back to basics is where we should be looking to now. We've had two seasons of utter sh*te and its time to stop repeating the same old mistakes over and over.

    Its not an either/or situation by the way. Eliminating the wastefulness of a player like Taarabt does not mean that we have to populate the entire squad with workhorses and scrappers. A nice balance of work and ingenuity is what all good teams possess. And ingenuity does not mean playing one good game in five and being useless in the other four. Townsend is infinitely a better player than Taarabt. He might not be able to do as many step-overs or solos as Taarabt but who wants him to? If its a keepy-uppy, back heel competition you want, go to the slums of Rio and delight yourself to your hearts content. But if its real footballers you want who actually have an end product then the likes of Andy Townsend are your ticket.

    I'm just sick of the sight of this joker. Time to bring some proper footballers back to our Club.
     
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  20. Busy Being Headhunted

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    I think the championship has been fairly average this season from what I have seen
    Cardiff are no better than when we were in the championship and Hull and Watford have very average squads
    We will just need to gel next season :emoticon-0112-wonde
     
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