Dai Your Wums and Liverpool

He told me its for good

 

I agree he is totally entitled to his views and on occassions I have (and I cant believe I am saying this) agreed with him. But, where his view has nothing to do with a specific thread and it is changed in to a Liverpool, BR, love in I have had enough. Views yes, Derailing threads, positively no and that is what has been happening daily.

 

Aber will not be returning to this forum.

 

Libertarian:

"Dai has been the subject of a witch hunt for some considerable time.....he should at all times be allowed to air his points of view and opinions,even if his is a lone voice.....he is still entitled to his say,and some of what he says has considerable credence.....Sorry,folks,but to ban him is wrong. I'd ban aber,who is CLEARLY more anti Swans' than Dai,but aber is welcomed here like a lost relative. Dai adds value here,whilst aber adds NOTHING."

THIS ^^^^

Not606 is a forum that attracts all sorts and that's it's strength - or should be.

One of the reasons I don't bother so much these days isn't the Dai-inspired derailed threads (the number of which is exaggerated) but the cosy boys club you have going here. It's clear that many of you socialise with and know each other outside the forum which kind of defeats the object of a forum doesn't it? As a result there's a cabal of people who all seem to have the same views and god help you if you don't toe the party line. Anyone who is a forceful character with strong views is labelled a trouble-maker and ostracised. Cross swords with one of them and they're all on your back within minutes. Dilli isn't even a mod and posts comments like "Dai is in the last chance saloon". Sorry, but that's not your place and this thread is in itself evidence of a witch hunt. My own view is that you're being disingenuous when you say you don't want Dai banned. I apologise if I've misread you but that's my impression.

On the Aber point, it was you, Dilli, who, against the wishes of a number of us welcomed back Aber with open arms. We said there would be problems but we were drowned out. Now the chickens have come home to roost and he's gone. With all due respect, the judgment of some people here is questionable and that's why you should tread carefully regarding Dai. In essence, your track record ain't that great, guys.

Dai has always been a pain - I've had problems with him from the old 606 days right up to now. But that's what makes a forum what it is - a place for debate, and yes, often explosive disagreements. At least he's never boring. There are still people here who never even received warnings for calling posters names like "prick" and yet you could never say that about Dai, even in his most condescending moments. So what if he loves Liverpool? So what if he worships Rodgers? There are worse things in the world, and imo some serious growing up needs to be done.

As someone else pointed out, maybe those who are offended by Dai should put him on Ignore and those who don't do so and who wish to reply to his comments reply without using his post so others don't see it. It's not rocket science.

 

To the best of my knowledge, none of the MODS know each other personally, yet we have all drawn similar conclusions about what has been happening regarding derailing threads the past few weeks and the fact that something had to be done.

 

"He(aber)told me it's for good".

Well,ha,ha,that's mighty noble of him.

 

Valley: I wasn't referring to the mods knowing each other. There are at least 7 or 8 regulars who meet outside the forum. No rules against that I know but you get my point.

 

I know that there are a few posters on here that know each other beyond this forum, it's just that I am pointing out to everyone, that the four MODS on here have all drawn (more or less) the same conclusions over what has been happening the past few weeks and the need for something to be done.

 

I don't frequent the Cardiff Forum. Why? Because they have nothing much to say that interests me. Others go there on a regular basis because they feel otherwise. So clear choices are made.

If anyone finds Dai's posts irritating then just ignore him. It really is that simple,you can choose to ignore him.

 

Sorry to sound thick and yes i probably am, Please explain how to put him on ignore, I am more than happy to try this.

 

You are not "thick" trundles,and you don't actually need to use the ignore button.
You can simply choose not to read his posts when you see them. They are easily identifiable
Just try,it's quite painless,I assure you.

 

It isn't that simple though Vetch, as Trundle would then be reading posts who have responded to a wumming post, posted to cause a derailment of a thread. The only suggestion to that would be for everyone to put wumming posters on IGNORE, but then what would the point be in allowing those type of posters to post on here in the first place as they wouldn't be contributing to thread discussions.
Hopefully now that the issue has been discussed openly among everyone here, a line can be drawn under the Liverpool/Brendan affair again.

 

TLF, the only thing is that if you put someone on ignore like I have done (no its not Dai), the only downside is that if someone copies and pastes their comments then you will be able to see it.

 

I don't really understand why a comment by Dai,which may be in opposition to other points of view, is a "derailment". Surely,a minority viewpoint isn't a "derailment" of a thread. I don't understand at all,sorry,perhaps I'm being "thick" now.

 

Vetch I dont respond but its still annoying but I hope he stays as its a bit like the wife you know what you have to live with

 

Then why not ban cutting and pasting. Let's get a vote on it,I say.

 

Think positive glam,at least you'll never have to pay Dai any alimony.

 

Unless he turn out to be the wife in disguise

 

I have to say i have to agree with valley on this. I have tried not reading them but others reply and the the thread is ruined. It has got to the stage that if i see a thread with a post from him i just simply dont read any further and that should have to happen. t is a shame as he does have some thoughtfull view points.

 

Thing is KJ, its not a difference of opinion thats the problem here, its a constant barrage of Liverpool tainted comments that derail threads and lower the tone, for the guys that have taken time out to post an Article it can become very frustrating. Strong disagreements are fine so is heated debate but we have neither of those things with Daiswan these days.

I feel that because 90% of the guys on here including myself have given him artistic licence over recent months/years he has decided to push the envelope further than the bounderies of a Swans forum will allow. The classic offer an Inch but take a mile scenerio!

Im all for free thinking and left field thoughts but what we have here is a constant flow of tripe that is constantly steering topics away from the origional debate, that is wrong IMO, of course threads naturally venture into different avenues from time to time but thats normal, what many posters are seeing is a conserted effort to Derail and be antagonistic.

People talk about a witch hunt but if there really is a witch that needs hunting then thats ok by me. The guy takes numerous warnings from the MODS, are we all wrong about this guy ?? i think not, when we have the more mild mannered members of this board voicing their dis-satisfaction then it needs to be noted by the MODS and supported by other members if action is taken, it is about the greater good and nothing else.

The greater good of this forum is listening to what the Majority of the membership is saying, its not certain groups of people that are fed up its pretty much everyone!! we are not here to dance to the tune of one specific poster we are here for the love of our club,something that Daiswan has shown very little of in recent conversations,a difference of opinion is fine,an objective viewpoint is fine but like in life there comes a time when you need to back up your views with logic and facts.

What do you do when a poster refuses to use logic or facts ? do we let him carry on spouting complete and utter bollocks all the time because "he is entitled to his views" ?

This is how the Forum tends to roll with Daiswan these days;-

poster " dissapointed with a point today,,i thought we could have won if the final ball was better"

Daiswan "you wont win any games with Laudrup and his tactics, the guy is completly usless and unlesss he changes it back we will be relegated,he is nothing compared to rodgers and i am right that Liverpool will finish higher than swansea proving that brenden is a much better manager than Laudrup"

poster "but dai,laudrup won manager of the year and won a trophy in his first season,how can you say he is useless"

Daiswan " those are the facts and if you dont like them thats tough,i only talk about the facts and its clear to see brenden is a much better manager"


Now you could argue that his points are valid, but if you make such sweeping statements you need to back it up with something,which he refuses to do,if you press him to debate the points you end up with a load of cheap insults, most people would conceed or battle a point of view,he does neither,so what is the point of a guy on a forum that will not enter into debate or accept other peoples views ??

It is truely bizzare and i must say an embarrasment to this Forum.

Many fair minded posters are fed up, i care about those posters,the ones that come here now and again often post the most insightful stuff or offer great points of view,they are very constructive and informed,if we lose posters like this then we lose the lifeblood of our message board!! if it means binning the village idiot then thats fine with me, we are not running or taking part in an ethics commitee its an internet forum,its there for people to enjoy and INTERACT!

If the guy is driving people away then that makes him almost like a bully, bullies need to be stood up to not accomadated !! we have accomadated him for far too long so either tow the line or get the **** out of here and leave people to debate,create..FREELY !!