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Mignolets Booking

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  1. RedNWhite4Life

    RedNWhite4Life Well-Known Member

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    Can anybody explain to me why Mignolet was booked today? Ive never seen a card for a goalkeeper handling a backpass before so was a bit shocked when he recieved a yellow. Surely if the referee thought he prevented a clear goal scoring opportunity (which he clearly did as it was in otherwise) then it should have been red. Then again any time a goalkeeper handles a backpass it is done as a very last resort and always denies a clear goalscoring opportunity so they should always see red for this offence.
     
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  2. Poyet's Eleven

    Poyet's Eleven Well-Known Member

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    He didn't prevent a goal scoring opportunity, he prevented a goal. You don't send keepers off for making a save <ok>

    Also you cannot send a 'keeper off if he handles inside his area from a backpass, in the rules
     
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  3. password invalid

    password invalid Well-Known Member

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    if he had done it outside of his area he would get sent off , for exactly that reason you said
     
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  4. RedNWhite4Life

    RedNWhite4Life Well-Known Member

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    But why was he booked then i cant get my head around it.

    Clearly he broke the rules and prevented a goal by doing so should have been sent off but the yellow was baffling surely if you cant send a keeper off for it then why bother with the yellow?
     
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  5. password invalid

    password invalid Well-Known Member

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    because if he done it again he would have to go 2 yellows
     
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  6. Poyet's Eleven

    Poyet's Eleven Well-Known Member

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    No idea, I was surprised myself when he got the booking. I remember a similar thing happened a few years back under Bruce, think it was against Wolves? Anyway Richardson played an awful ball back to Gordon who have to save it, and they got an indirect freekick for it (which iirc they scored), but anyway I don't think Gordon got booked for it.

    Strange
     
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  7. MackemsRule

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    The actual offence committed is the handling of the ball by the goalkeeper, not the ball being passed back. An indirect freekick is awarded to the opposing team from the place where the offence occurred, i.e., where the goalkeeper handled the ball. In practice this offence is very rarely committed.
    The offence rests on three events occurring in the following sequence:
    • The ball is kicked (played with the foot, not the knee, thigh, or shin) by a teammate of the goalkeeper,
    • This action is deemed to be deliberate and intentional, rather than a deflection or an miss-kick which is not intended for goalkeepers direction, by the referee
    • The goalkeeper handles the ball directly (no intervening touch of play of the ball by anyone else). Handling the ball involves retrieving the ball or making a save with one or both hands.


    Law 12 states a keeper can't be sent of for handling in his own area.
     
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  8. password invalid

    password invalid Well-Known Member

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    deliberate handball
     
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  9. Poyet's Eleven

    Poyet's Eleven Well-Known Member

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    There we are

    Still doesn't quite explain we he was booked. Think Dowd (was it Dowd?) just felt he had to for some reason..
     
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  10. Dorset

    Dorset Well-Known Member

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    I suspect he was booked for unsporting behavior. It covers a multitude of sins.
     
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    password invalid Well-Known Member

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    plus he had his fingers crossed he was xees
     
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  12. Poyet's Eleven

    Poyet's Eleven Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes, Stu, I really struggle to understand what the hell you're on about
     
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  13. MackemsRule

    MackemsRule Well-Known Member

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    Booked for misconduct not a foul.


    Did you know if the pass back to the keeper is by trickery, ie. juggling the ball with feet and heading the ball to the keeper the ref has the right to book the player heading the ball?
    But not the keeper as the trickster is deemed to have broke the rules.
    With a booking due and indirect freekick from where the trickster played the ball.
     
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  14. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    i'm agreeing with you you dozy old twonk
     
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  15. MackemsRule

    MackemsRule Well-Known Member

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    Join the club.<ok>
     
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  16. password invalid

    password invalid Well-Known Member

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    you are probably to young to remember the saying , it does get lost in translation if you are not old enough to remember.
     
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  17. RedNWhite4Life

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    This was the only logical conclusion I could come up with just wondered if any of the amateur refs on here might have had another explanation. At least we have deduced that he cant be sent off by the letter of the law even though if it was outside the box he would have been. Strange one all round and a bit of a grey area im guessing.
     
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  18. Qwerty

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    Because the ref was wrong. There is no need to show a card for deliberately catching a backpass.
     
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  19. password invalid

    password invalid Well-Known Member

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    another one was, touch black cant have back

    eneeny meany miney mo

    **** it mod now coming on , god bless all here, i will fight the best man in the house.

    crew practise tomorrow rnli good night
     
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  20. Poyet's Eleven

    Poyet's Eleven Well-Known Member

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    there's a change. haha
     
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