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OT Baroness Margaret Thatcher

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  1. Chief

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    You make the family tax credits sound like they're given to one parent strugglers or something so they can't spend them on booze!! They aren't, they are given back to actual families of all shapes and sizes as a tax credit. Well, they were, until they decided that only high earners should get them, in some wierd bizarre twist.

    I also believe genuine bona fide asylum seekers should be given a leg up but anyone else, and by that I mean EU citizens who look to us as a nice convenient way to live off our state, not their own ****ing state, but ours, should be told in no uncertain terms to **** right off. End of. There's the ****ing plane, jump back on it.

    Unless they already have job lined up, which is probably highly unlikely. They should not be allowed in on the premise that they might get a job as they will soon just start getting benefit and that would be the end of that.

    I think the retirement age should have stayed at 65 but should definitely not go above 70 and that the NHS is one of the truly great things about Britain and should stay as it is.
     
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    Then, once you have done all of that, you might be ready to take on the role of not606 moderator on the Liverpool board.

    Alan is currently in training which is why we don't see him anymore <ok>
     
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  3. Sweats

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    on the tax credits though it wouldnt make any difference to higher earners as they could redeem it with say supermarkets for food or with energy companies for bills etc.. would just stop spongers spending it down the bookies or on ***s and booze or 57" TV's.
     
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    also the thing with the NHS net spending on it has increased alot over the years with no real improvement. Thats bencause i firmly believe any government rum business or service in inefficient..
     
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    Not sure benfits cagders even get them though. They go to people who work for a living and pay taxes. I'd be ****ing staggered if those on benefits also got them.
     
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    It may well be but privatise it and you no longer have free health care for all, and we really really do not want to be going down the route of having to pay to be made well.
     
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    I used tax credits as an example, as i really dont know much about the benefit system.

    I assume full time baby producers who never done a days work in their life get some child support ??
     
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    I did suggest that it should be funded through NI payments.. it should also be a non profit organistation. I just think money gets wasted within the NHS rather than on actual care of treatments/drugs.
     
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    Yeah, course they do.

    They get a free house, free food, free booze money, free ***s money, free child care (for when they go doen the pub) and a free plasma TV.

    They get benefits!

    Family tax credits don't fall into that category really. They're very small tax break for working families and they've been cut by the Tories anyway.
     
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    hadnt they just changed the peoople who can claim. ??

    I know a few full time baby producers they have about 6 kids from 6 different dads... ****s.
     
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    Yes they have, it's a strange one as we no longer qualify on the basis that our combined earnings are too high but in a family where one person in it earns 60k (I think, might be 50) they would still get it.


    Not sure of the absolute details because I'm too bone idle to check but it's along the lines of a single salary which is more than the combined salary of two can still qualify whereas the combined won't, even though they earn together less than that single one!! Or something.
     
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    yeah i think thats it. .
     
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    something else i'd do is bring back national service anyone under 25 and unemployed has to do 2 years in the forces on minimum wage.
     
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    <laugh> And the British army are not child murdering ****s?
     
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    Government as a whole is generally inefficient. Every pound invested by a company such as Tesco will grow the economy by more than a pound, every pound spent by the government returns around 40 pence. Larger state = lower real economic growth.

    Tho' the government is much better at redistributing money than the private sector - in general the more money invested in the private sector the richer the middle and upper classes get, whilst the more invested in the government the richer the poorer people get. Larger state = greater equality (provided corruption can be controlled).

    That's pretty much all that modern politics is about - how to balance growth and equality. The whole New Labour experiment was an (arguably failed) attempt to prove they could achieve both.

    Also, the NHS is a bad example - spending has increased a lot cos people are living longer and there are more expensive medicines and treatments around. Look at the US - they spend twice as much on their privatised healthcare system as we do on the NHS, and their performance is much worse on average. That's at least partly cos they are generally fat unhealthy ****s, but also partly cos they have fudged what should be a socialised system into a private system. So the private sector is trying to provide equal treatment to all, which is in no way what it should be doing.

    Child benefit is the other way round. If one parent earns over £50k then the child benefit gets cut, if they both earn £49k then it stays at maximum. Proper kick in the teeth to stay at home parents imo.

    I've basically made my wife a shareholders in my company purely to shift some earnings over to her and make sure we keep full CB.
     
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    In Ireland?

    Yes, they're not.

    Glad you find this funny by the way, it would be good of you to laugh like this at perhaps the parents of the kid murdered by an IRA bomb in Warrington, you ****ing prick.
     
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    Me thinks this should be closed.
     
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    I found the comment you made funny/ironic and I don't why you cant just talk without insulting people. I don't support the killing of children under any circumstances just so you know.
     
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  19. Rubadub

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    And by the way the British army have murdered plenty of children in Ireland.
     
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    Sweats will love you saying that <ok>
     
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