Dessert is a dish best served cold - The comeuppance for Pompey fans' comments thread

My post above is not to rub Pompey's noses in it. Just that the old chestnut of 'Happy face, sad inside' here. I want Pompey to survive. I want them to get back up to higher reaches (not as high as us of course.)

Half my family (including my Dad) are Pompey and we have enjoyed untold banter over the years. Some of our relatives would stay with us in Lincoln in the old days when they were in Div 2 or 3 and playing a team from the North. They followed their team then just as they do now, however even when Saints went bankrupt there was common ground in Redknapp. I think all of us from both sides of the footballing divide in our family knew the score there.

As I said above my Dad is Pompey and his older (and more wise ) brother is Saints. They used to take each other to games. A Pompey fan watching the Saints one week and a Saints fan watching Pompey another week. That is the beautiful side of football.

My post above r.e. Div 4 / 5 experience is more a retort to the statements within the 'we are better off here' sort of threads. Pompey are going to be in for a very quick shock realisation that most Div 4 sides will still have better grounds than Pompey. Maybe smaller but modernised. There is a world of difference between L1 and L2.

L1 often has some giants that are slipping down for a while. Sleeping Giants if you like. It also has many clubs from the modern era that did well. Teams like Sheff Utd, Sheff Weds, Saints, Leeds, Man City, Oldham, Swindon, Notts County, Coventry etc. All have been top flight clubs in my footballing memory L2 is a big step down from that. There are few and far between sleeping giants from L2 down.

The problem for Pompey is that there are a huge amount of very ambitious newcomers around these days. That league is ridiculously hard to get out from and just who is your manager can be the difference between getting great loanees in or not. It's a contacts game and even then not guaranteed. Add to that there are a fair few ambitious newcomers and old comers that want to go up the leagues.

I would say when you say it is better and be-little the Prem ask Swansea, Fulham or Wigan what their opinion is. Seen them all in Div4 at Sincil Bank. They will say the same as any Pompey fan would (if you return to the PL.) That the PL is the place to be.

Good luck guys. Forget your vitriol, support your team but be ready for a long hard ride. If you could have had this sorted out without being relegated to L2 you may have had a chance, in L2 I think you may well be there to stay for many seasons.

 

I'm sad at what's happened to Portsmouth, and hope they get back to something approaching normality (Championship will do) as soon as possible - would be sad if they dropped out of the league. Being from Gosport/Fareham, most of my pre-parents family were Portsmouth fans, and in my early-teens (though always a Saints fan), I used to go to Nottarf regularly with friends (non of whom were Pompey fans), as was cheaper and easier to get tickets. Wasn't until I was in my twenties that I had seen more Southampton games live than Pompey, I reckon.

But, I LOVE just desserts and told-you-sos, and I think this is a good thread: it doesn't help or hinder any team progress, so all it is is fun for Saints fans, so keep it coming! We'll be on the receiving end of the same at some point in the future, I'm sure (eg. if we lose a cup derby with them). George Jetson will be the mod, and not606 will be beamed directly into our minds due to a chip inserted at birth into our great great great great grandchildren's head, so they will be less able to avoid or block out the comments, So what goes around, comes around, I suppose.

 

Yes, I think that the OP is not so much mixing metaphors as slipped up on the spelling front.

In inferring that Portsmouth is a dessert, he has inadvertently used one too many 's'

 

People, you completely misunderstand me. I am not for one second saying that some Portsmouth fans acted like complete idiots and took far too much pleasure in seeing Southampton on the brink. What I am saying is that taking the time and making the effort to look up comments from 4 frigging years ago makes it seem like you're bitter and have a big chip on your shoulder, even if you don't. It is especially ridiculous considering your position now, so yes, sorry but I do think the topic post is a bit sad all things considered

 

Looking back to the old 606 forum and pretty much everything that I predicted that would happen to Pompey, has happened.

I didn't have to display a superior intellect to make those sage like predictions, they seemed pretty bloody obvious to anyone with any common sense.

Now, whether Pompey fans could have done anything about it, is another matter, but it feels the vast majority put their head in the sand and were quick to laugh at Saints situation. What goes around...

I do wonder how many of those Pompey fans declaring their love of owning their club, actually have pledged money.

My next predictions on the year or so ahead for Pompey are:


1) The actual takeover all signed and sealed and payments made to take the club out of admin, will drag on longer than the Trust have said.

2) Once it finally happens (if enough pledges are followed up on) then the new Board will start to exercise their power in a less than transparent way.

3) Pompey fans will start to get uneasy about the Board, thinking its no different than whats gone on before, despite a token 1 or 2 "ordinary fans" on it (who are outvoted every time).

4) Important rebuilding projects like the Academy & training facilities will be put off and put off, despite Sky money being paid into the club.

5) Some local creditors will continue to insist they have been paid nothing they've waited so patiently for.

 

In all honesty, I agree. We had a chance to be better than this, to be above it all. This thread sinks us to the level of those Pompey fans who came on here and the old 606 to kick us while we were down. Maybe I'm out of touch with our rivalry, but this is my honest opinion.

 

Or though, on a completely unrelated subject.......has anyone spotted Mings (sb3) new account! I think he might well have given up on wuming us........forever.

 

love how they are calling the premier league rubbish and plastic

LAUGH AT THE SKATES <LAUGH>

 

something pompey fans know all about.

sorry lapras but this is hilarious and it couldnt come a day too soon.

 

Your posts show that you're probably the last person to be talking about people with chips on their shoulders.

And the Premiership is rubbish and plastic.

 

Now there's a change of tune............ Wasn't so long ago that you were saying the EPL was the best league in the world and what a privilege to be playing in it!!! PL...mate if you cannot contribute something a little more positive I really suggest you go back to your own board. Come on mate you are better than that...we don't want any of your sour grapes over here........

 

and what chip is that?

lapras, i went to uni in portsmouth, people used to spit at me when i wore my saints shirt. i used to get all sorts of insults thrown at me by strangers who dont know me. sorry but these things affect people! a lot of pompey fans are complete scum and i am laughing in their face right now

 

well said beddy

 

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That doesn't sound like something I'd say.

Sure the Premiership has it's glitz and glamour and it's nice to see international stars and your team on football on tv a lot, but if you look beyond the façade it's all rather shallow. Plus, plenty of your own fans have said that in many ways they prefer the lower leagues.

I think, being objective, the best league in England is probably the championship. It's like Premiership-lite, a low calorie version of the Premiership. And we're not even in it now so I'm not just being biased!

Well I'm sorry to hear that that happened to you, I think that's totally out of order and I don't condone it for one second. We do have our fair idiots but then so does every club, and I expect the same thing would happen if I wondered around Southampton uni in a Portsmouth shirt or someone wondered around Newcastle uni in a Sunderland shirt, etc. In fact, I'm sure I remember you saying that I'd get ejected from the Rose Bowl if I wore a Portsmouth shirt there! Football is extremely tribal but Portsmouth are no worse than most clubs in that regard (except for Millwall perhaps, cause they're just on a whole different level).

And there seems to be loads of Southampton fans where I work for some reason but I'd never insult them or spit at them.

 

Who cares if it's plastic and over glamourised? I'd much rather be in the Premier League than in the football league's basement thank you very much - and the fact that people are discussing whether sums of over £1,000 would be enough to make us want to go back to the "best league in the country" shows that I'm pretty sure most people would rather be here than in the Championship - save for a few curmudgeons and contrarians who hark for "the good old days".

 

Well everyone has their own opinion and mine is that I find the Championship a more enjoyable and interesting league the Premiership (and League 2 for that matter). Each to their own.

 

So you celebrated when Portsmouth were relegated from the Premier League, and if (due to some divine twist of fate) you found yourself at the top of the Championship again, you'd be praying for losses?

 

I love the Championship as a neutral, but being in it is too much stress. Don't ever want to be in that position again.

 

I don't like the Championship THAT much.