There is a reason why Bunn is not our first choice keeper. Don't worry, Holt's gameplay has been criticised heavily here. I have to say I think it's ludicrous to categorise Kamara's as a dive - he quite clearly didn't dive. This is nothing like "a Gareth Bale". He tripped over himself - we've all done it. As I said above, the real question as to whether it's a foul or not is how much of him tripping himself up can be attributed to Gibbs, who definitely touched him. I think both the referee and the linesman gave it because they felt Gibbs' touch put him off balance from which he could never recover. If that is the case, it is definitely a foul. I accept that one could have gone either way though. To call it a dive is very harsh though, because it was too clumsy to be deliberate.
Hmm, I think we're always going to disagree on the free kick then. I feel it's very much a dive. Or at the very least not a foul. I've only seen one replay, but I seem to remember there being no true contact. I think what really is grating with Arsenal fans is the refusal from the media to give praise to an astonishing comeback. 3 goals in 7 minutes is incredible and I feel that's being taken away by stirring up more controversy than there is. This Arsenal side has found a level of grit that everybody in the club is happy to see. We certainly wouldn't have won this game earlier in the season. It's exciting for us, because it gives us a lovely platform to build upon for next year. And to see our successes put down as purely down to refereeing decisions is hurtful. Walcott may have been offside for the third goal, for example, but it's fair to say that the offside didn't truly benefit Arsenal. If he had been onside he still would have got there and Podolski still would have taken that lovely shot. I know offside is offside but nonetheless, you've seen nobody praise a fantastic shot and it just feels a bit depressing.
Um, theres a reason you haven't been praised, because they weren't legitimate goals, idiot! Do you expect us to just roll back and take it while you claim 3 points by merit just because you are arsenal? **** you, **** your team and **** all the big teams. When we play you next year it will be a war, your players better be ready, Bring the extra large shin pads.
3 goals in 7 minutes to win a game would be incredible if 2 of the goals wasn't so controversial, if they were legit goals than they would have gotten the praise but as it is, they don't really deserve it. Nothing against Arsenal, I actually quite like them and admire the way you play.
Honestly, if you review it again, the replay shows Kamara tripping himself up, which is why it don't think it can be a dive. Most people saying it wasn't a foul have highlighted this, rather than that it was a dive, I believe. More importantly, as you mention, the replay showed minimal contact (though suggests that there was at least some) and that's what I mean - the debate is whether there was enough to put Kamara off balance, causing the trip, or whether he tripped over himself. As I said, I agree that it was marginal and could have gone the other way. I think we all know how you feel about the second part. Unfortunately, all too often recently, officials seem to make themselves centre of attention, to the detriment of all fans.
Maybe we can find a middle ground. It's a shame that there's too much pressure on players not to say when they get a wrong decision in their favour. I remember Arshavin being criticised for, when he won a penalty, telling the ref that it wasn't a penalty. It's just the way the game goes nowadays. I notice the ball goes out of play less often when a player is injured nowadays too. Agreed, I certainly know what it's like to be on the bad side of officiating, especially against teams like Stoke and Blackburn who never really attempt to play football against us.
Your absolutely right we should have just gifted you the three points. Location "Near Brighton" Team supported Arsenal. Hilarious.
Yup very spiteful. Grow up, I haven't shown Norwich any disrespect and you're just being a keyboard warrior. Cool it.
I dunno, I don't like name calling as we're all adults here (I think). Your posts seems sensible enough and not abusive or anything to warrant any of that. I'm over Saturday's game anyway, admittedly I was annoyed, but I'm over and done with it now. Thinking about the Reading game now.
Steady there Beef old lad. Look at me and Dave. We live away from Norwich and yet support them with all our heart and heartache. Just because we now find ourselves living away from Norfolk doesn't mean that we can't support or love our team any less. Cut some of the other clubs' supporters a little slack please. I daresay that when we are champions of Europe, then we will get our fair share of glory hunters as well hanging on <tongue well and firmly in cheek>
I would argue asking for respect for scoring goals against us that shouldn't have stood is disrespect.
You can't help which club you love. I live in Peterborough now, 2 miles from the Posh ground and by rights of proximity should support them because I live there right ? Well, I like them, my neighbours on either side support them (always makes for good banter), want to see them stay in the Championship and want to see them do well and have seen them a few times when City have been away and Posh have been at home, but I am a City fan through and through and have been for 45 years of going to CR. You can't help where you live sometimes in much the same way as you can't help support the team you've supported since you got out of nappies.
I think it's a shame that's gone, and even more when the player is vilified for it. The amount of stick that striker in Italy got for admitting he handled the ball into the net was a real shame. The amount of money in football seems to have removed the sporting element, which can still be seen in most other top level sports. Still, competent officials and/or further use of technology would reduce the need for players to admit to fouls. On the topic of who you support, I hadn't realised no Norwich mods are currently living close to Norwich! But despite the length of time I've spent in Sheffield, and the number of games I've watched at Hillsborough and Bramall lane, nothing compares to my support for Norwich. I don't see supporting your fathers side as a crime either, although when my dad's left me with Bury FC, I think I should be pressing charges! Tone it down a little Beefy?
I don't understand the tone regarding taking away this free kick and that penalty then Arsenal "deserved" to win 2-1. It is not a boxing match. It isn't a points game. It's a goals game. If it weren't Chelsea wouldn't be European champions. The fact remains that until the penalty, we were leading 1-0. It doesn't matter if Arsenal had 99% possession, if they don't or can't score and we do, then that is their problem. Nothing that any Arsenal fan says can alter the fact that up until the contentious penalty, their team had not and did not look likely to, scored a goal. In fact they were running it of ideas and launching the ball into our area hoping Podolski could get on the end of it. They had to change their game plan and we didn't. So let none of us concede that until 85 minutes, Arsenal were second best in the only area that counts.
wahey! You've gone up in my estimations Carrabuh. Now, who here would like to hear a story about a bridge?
