Guys, can we try not to alienate every opposition supporter who comes our way? It'd be nice if at least a couple felt able to come over here and debate things sensibly. Not everyone who supports a top 4 fan is a plastic fan, and just because you weren't born a stones throw from the stadium doesn't mean you can't have a legitimate reason for supporting a club. Granted we haven't had one given, but it's unfair to write all Arsenal fans off. Likewise to any Arsenal fans looking in, it's unfair to dismiss all our fans on the basis of a few responses from fans who (in my mind rightly) felt robbed on Saturday. Come back later in the week and I'm sure we'll be able to manage a sensible conversation.
Wow label all Norwich fans and club up the same, met all of us have you? If we and our city are so "classless" why do so many rich london twats have second homes here? Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
As I said to the Ipswich guys, if I visit friends, I take a gift, not insults. The Arsenal people have come on here this weekend to provoke. And they succeeded. Everybody was down from Saturday and they knew it. Rather than say fair dues, you were unlucky, its as if we didn't deserve to be there in the first place and should expect the worst.
As I said to the Ipswich guys, if I visit friends, I take a gift, not insults. The Arsenal people have come on here this weekend to provoke. And they succeeded. Everybody was down from Saturday and they knew it. Rather than say fair dues, you were unlucky, its as if we didn't deserve to be there in the first place and should expect the worst.
Wow! So much emotion to share around all those clubs, must be hard when they have to play each other....what to do huh? Think I will declare myself a Barcelona fan but it's okay guys I will never go to watch them for real or have any real attachment to Spain, let alone the city or region of Barcelona other than I went near there one time for a holiday. Why Barcelona? - they are winners and I need to feel like a winner too otherwise my life is too difficult to face if I cannot smile most Monday mornings
This As much as I cannot abide the vermin I do recognise that they are not in for the glory hunting aspect and to that end we can actually relate to each other to a degree as we know about the real ups and downs in football, not having to suffer the shock of only finishing 6th in the PL
Hmm, re-reading all of this, perhaps I've been too generous to our 'friends' from 'London'. Still, there must be a couple of genuine fans out there, so if we do ever find them can we try not to scare them off? And to the Arsenal posters, I agree with Redruth, if you're going to come over here to post, at least try and see where we're coming from, and maybe try being good winners?
See my post last night, DH. Most clubs seem to have a few decent posters, even QPR. Yet to discover one from Arsenal on here.
Agree, or to find one on here who could find the emirates on a map. I guess if people want to support a team from afar, that's up to them. I keep an eye on Bray Wanderers because I have friends and family there, and have been to a few games. They lost 7-0 on Friday though, and I just went 'Oh dear'. That's because NOTHING can match that sick feeling in your stomach you get from seeing your home team, the one you have followed since childhood, lose in the manner they did on Saturday. Some of the comments on here from people who have never been anywhere near North London are just ridiculous.
I feel a bit sorry for the first Gooner who was only really attempting to give his side of the game, but as for the second one, he is the very epitome of plastic.
And we love you too Thai, there does seem an awful lot of spitting out dummies and playground tantrums on this board nowadays!
Righteo, I'm a gooner coming in peace. I'll start off by saying I'm not from London, nor have I ever lived there. But coming from the South East I could say London is the nearest city with PL teams but the true reason I support Arsenal is my dad. As a kid I was never really into the sport, during our Invincibles I could maybe name 5 Arsenal players. But around 2007, when I had a paperround, I started to get into football. It was something I saw on the back pages every day and I admired the emotion and drama of it all. And I followed Arsenal because my dad was a fan and for me it was a way to get closer to him. Since then I have made up for lost time, attending a fair few games, including a NLD, and obsessively learning my club's history. Does that make me a plastic because I don't live close, I wouldn't think so. In regard to the game, I made a post on the Arsenal board about the main decisions and I hope you can agree: "I tend to like Norwich, particularly because Stephen Fry is the only Norwich fan I know, and the club is therefore much more charismatic. The first penalty call was not a penalty. It didn't hit your defender's arm. But the free kick leading to your goal was never a free kick. There should have been a penalty for the foul on Walcott. The penalty was a sound one, but it was never a corner in the first place. The third goal was offside from Walcott. I think that's a fair break down of the main decisions in the game. Once you look at it like that, it's a 1 or 2 nil win to the Arsenal. I can't say Norwich are hard done by."
Agreed apart from your decisive decisions on our freekick and the foul on Walcott. Both were fifty-fifty at worst in our favour - especially the freekick because Kamara was touched, it is then a question of whether the touch put him off balance and brought him down or he put himself off-balance. Difficult to say, but I think once you touch a player, it's generally regarded as a foul and very few commentaries seem to disagree with this. I accept that it's borderline. As for the "penalty" on Walcott, I think that's more fifty-fifty. Seen them given, not seen them given. I don't think it was a bad one and I'm not surprised at all that the ref felt it was OK. I'd say that a fair result, on that basis, would ahve been 1-1 or 2-1. So we didn't lose out definitely, but we probably did. When you factor in that our goal difference is very important at our end of the table, it is quite a big shout. The only thing you omit which has a huge impact is the effect of bad decisions. I sincerely believe that the only reason we conceded two more goals is because our players' heads went down. That's something we need to work on, but I suspect we would have defended comfortably if that hadn't been the case. As for whether you're a plastic - you've got a much better claim than the other posters. It's more about how you bandy it around and you don't appear to be WUMming, or arrogant, which is the principle issue with plastics.
In truth, you should be looking at your players for that. Your goalkeeper did admirably but his attitude stank. The way he harassed the ref and shunted Arteta as he walked past was really quite poor sportsmanship. Instead of getting on with the game, I think he hurt your team's chances as that kind of mentality will not win you games. Ditto with Holt. He kept using his "experience" to behave in a way that really has no place in the game. Don't get me wrong, I like your team generally. You're a relatively small side doing big things and that's always worthy of praise. However, I would suggest that actions such as the ones I talked about will hurt your team. The mentality was that the penalty was going to lose you the game and, because of that, it did. I still think the free kick leading to your goal was practically worth a yellow for simulation and you should too. I've seen Cazorla get similar free kicks before and it just makes me feel a little sick to think that this might be the way we end up winning a game. It was a dive and you'd have to be the player's mother to think otherwise.
