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O/T Margaret Thatcher Has Died

Discussion in 'Ipswich Town' started by johnnywarksmoustache, Apr 8, 2013.

  1. CotswoldCanary

    CotswoldCanary New Member

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    Given that Thatcher wanted to privatise everything, why is her funeral being paid for out of the public coffers? Would anyone like to guess the cost of Wednesday? Multiples of £10 million only though.
     
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  2. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

    YorkieLancsHampyLondoner Well-Known Member

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    I only hope they have fumigated her suite at the Ritz in time for next week, there will be a shortage of upmarket places for all her wealthy allies. No doubt their accommodation and transport will be on us too <ok>
     
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  3. itfcptc

    itfcptc Well-Known Member

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    In the end her divisiveness was her downfall. Noone wanted her as PM anymore, the public didn't and her own Party certainly didn't. There's no doubt the unions needed putting in their place and that she improved our economy(in terms of growth), she improved our international standing, she was good for business but she ran the country like a business and the parts that weren't working she just didn't bother with. This country overly relied upon the Banks at the expense of manufacturing, she created a North South divide, closed the mines down and didn't ensure anything was in place for those who lost their jobs, they were just left to it, she stopped building houses and created the culture of greed and making the fast buck without thinking about the concequences. All of this came to a head in 2008 and I genuinely think the reason we are suffering as bad as we are stems from her time in office. She was extremely tunnell visioned which meant parts of our country improved but others just were destroyed and still haven't recovered.

    JWM the questions you ask about women are just silly, surely even you can see even with the blinkers on that she could've done alot more than she did. We don't go around saying why don't male MPs do more for men because men have always been in a privilaged position compared to women!! I do sometimes wonder if you can ever see the other side of the coin JWM.
     
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  4. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    They have stopped all the benefits for the feckless and workshy to pay for it <ok>
     
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  5. itfcptc

    itfcptc Well-Known Member

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    I have to say, alot of the things that have gone on since her death, like her funeral and recalling parliament at the tax payers expense, I wonder how much she actually would've agreed with!!
     
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  6. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    PTC for all your bluster the fact remains that she won 3 elections and was never defeated at the ballot box but of course you obviously know better. And just to remind you that Mrs Thatcher had been out of office for 18 years up to 2008 so how you can blame her for the credit crunch is just plain wrong and blinkered on your part. Labour had been in power 11 years by then, just in case you didn't remember!
     
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  7. CotswoldCanary

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    Does that include disabled people who have also seen their benefits cut?
     
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  8. itfcptc

    itfcptc Well-Known Member

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    I think you'll find I've been fairly complimentary to her actually. Clearly you just can't see the otherside of the coin, I mean really did she do anything you disagree with at all? I swear you'd argue black was white sometimes if it suited yourside of the argument!!

    If her policies had no effect on the financial crash and were all New Labours fault, was it only her good policies that "are still very much alive today"....:

     
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  9. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely! Oh and of course all the immigrant scroungers that are here sponging off the welfare state. Is there any one else I've forgotten?
     
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  10. JonahJameson

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    No, you compared the facts coming to light following 30 year old secrets being revealed to a German defending Hitler. Such is the mindless, blind brainwashing of the “enlightened” liberal of late 20th, early 21st century. Prepared to believe anything if it supports your ignorant worldview.
     
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  11. CotswoldCanary

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    We both know that you are only saying that for attention JWM.

    When you have children of your own then you will appreciate the evil that you have just spouted.

    You could of course retract that statement and we will say no more about this misdemeanour of yours.
     
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  12. CotswoldCanary

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    We both know that you are only saying that for attention JWM.

    When you have children of your own then you will appreciate the evil that you have just spouted.

    You could of course retract that statement and we will say no more about this misdemeanour of yours.
     
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  13. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

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    JWM, KIO and WCP show contempt for other human beings including Ipswich Town fans and other people on this forum. They simply do not care for people who face hardship. Remember, many of them were in a strong position at some time and made a bad decision, lost their livelihood or family or simply grew old. Let's hope none of you or your nearest and dearest suffer that misfortune and need the help of others at any time. Margaret Thatcher died alone, surrounded by luxury.
     
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  14. johnnywarksmoustache

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    <laugh>... Keep going Hampy
     
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  15. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

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    Jonah, if you want to get your 'facts' straight dear sir, I was simply pointing out that finding an account from a biased source does not constitute proof. If you think that every government document is a record of fact that is extremely naive. That is not comparing Thatcher to Hitler.
     
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  16. CotswoldCanary

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    Given that this is a football forum I am very disappointed that nobody wants to discuss the Hillsborough cover up and lies that Thatcher's government played a part in.

    Some people have Selective memories.
     
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  17. CotswoldCanary

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    Given that this is a football forum I am very disappointed that nobody wants to discuss the Hillsborough cover up and lies that Thatcher's government played a part in.

    Some people have Selective memories.
     
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  18. wellyblue

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    I read that Thatcher herself left last requests that she would not have wanted the kind of public payed funeral that those cock sucking Tory MP's are giving her...
     
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  19. WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM

    WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM Well-Known Member

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    What are you going on about Hampy............ how have i shown any contempt for anyone other than the dispicable people that think its clever to celebrate an elderly grandmothers death.
     
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  20. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

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    Treacle, you only have to look at this thread, and that my post on the Ipswich elections drew not an apology or even comment from JWM to see how such people sidestep truth and common sense.

    You only have to look at IDS's biography on the Tory website to see that truth doesn't come into it, only winning.
     
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