I couldn't give a toss about the BBC's biased comments. They pick a side to play devil's advocate, solely for the purpose of getting a discussion going (job done). I watched the foul and the replay. You can not grab an attacking player's shirt in the penalty area and not give away a penalty. 50/50 challenge?! Don't make of laugh, Hansen. You may have a point about Snodgrass and the corner, but the linesman was in a better position than the TV cameras, so we'll never know. I haven't mentioned how easily your man went down under minimal (if any) contact to get the free kick which led to your goal, as I think you deserved to be ahead at that point. Town had a poor decision yesterday which gave Hull a penalty. Unfortunately, I was too ill to get to the game - first one I've missed for ages. There is regular injustice, but it doesn't happen week after week to the same team. You make your own luck and deal with it. For the record, I reckon you've got just about enough luck left to stay in the Prem this season, so we'll have to wait a while for another blue v yellow derby. Hey ho.
At the end of the day all this debate is irrelevant as the score will still stand. We pick ourselves up and go again ( to quote a recent City manager). One thing I would say is injustice for us fans is having a manager in charge who has won 1 game in the last 16. I find it strange that our so called tough CEO has not acted sooner!
I accept the point about injustices happening all the time and not to the same team every week and no-one is suggesting otherwise, however it cannot be denied that the big boys in the PL do appear to get more than their fair share throughout a season - assuming you watch all the PL games of course. We have really only had three games where the officials have been seen to "go against us", West Ham (A), Sunderland (A) & Arsenal (A). The only common factor is they are all away games and maybe that says something?
I would not be so sure about that!! I also do feel we will just about make it but it is painful at the moment. Some will say Hughton will have met his brief and I can see that point do view. But this season is too much like the one Roeder had before we were relegated to league 1 the next season. If we do get over the finish line and he is in charge for next season, things better improve aft the first few games or he will be out.
I would not be so sure about that Mr. Hawking! I also do feel we will just about make it but it is painful at the moment. Some will say Hughton will have met his brief and I can see that point do view. But this season is too much like the one Roeder had before we were relegated to league 1 the next season. If we do get over the finish line and he is in charge for next season, things better improve aft the first few games or he will be out.
I can't really see how people can say it was a clear cut penalty when the ref had a good view of it and didn't call it and the majority saying it wasn't a penalty and yet you get a few (probably biased) saying it was.
Very different situation, at the time it was 0 0 and only 20 or so minutes gone, had it been given a goal there was still plenty of time to get back into the game and with home advantage, also it was a correct decision.Not the same as leading 1 0 away at a top 4 club with 10 minutes to go and in the manner it happened.
The fact that a foul had been commited by a Swansea player, the referee had already blown the whistle before the ball had even reached Michu, I fail to see any comparison whatsoever!
The ref shouldn't have blown. The Norwich player passed the ball back before there was a coming together with Moore. Both soft decisions.
Not sure about "shouldn't have blown," looked a clear foul to me, but the fact was he did blow and you play to the whistle!
Like I said last week after you game the link to watch it again, there was a collision as the Swans player went flying in to BJ, and it was late - ergo it has to be a foul
What worries me is the future of the game. Clubs are now going to have to spend millions putting in goal line technology for next seasons Prem. How many times a season does it come into play? But in yesterdays game, there were at least three contentious issues on our behalf. That's in the space of five minutes. All this bullcrap about technology drives me nuts. Lets please address the real issues which surround incompetent officials. The CL game between Malaga and Dortmund, which had 5 officials, showed the standard has dropped or become biased ever since the introduction of full time officials.
I think your under-estimating the power of momentum. Arsenal were well on top before the penalty, but never really looked like scoring, they didn't seem to have the belief that they could. For the penalty, I don't think it was ever a corner in the first place, and then Kamara and the Arsenal player are holding each others shirts similarly, so normally nothing is given. Once they scored the penalty, the momentum was with them, and our heads dropped. I've got no complaints against their second, but Walcott was clearly off-side for the third. Purely on "legal" goals it should have been 1-1, but I think without the momentum from the penalty they'd have never scored the second (or what would have been the equaliser) and in the 80th minute I'd have backed us to come away with 3 points. I think it's a tough one when you look at what clubs with stable managers have achieved. At the very top, United might not have quite the resources of Chelsea, but the stability has compensated. Everton are also arguably punching above their weight. Granted, quick firings can bring a more instant boost to a club, but long-term it isn't sustainable. If we sack Hughton now, then the incoming manager (who we'd need to have lined up, and I for one can't think of anyone I'd want right now) is going to bring fresh ideas and new belief to the side (not that I think belief is lacking), which may help us over the line, but come the summer he's going to want to sign players to fit his style. Is the new manager going to want 2DM's, or was Tettey a waste of money if he only wants someone to break up play? Is Snodgrass going to go to waste if the new manager doesn't want inverted wingers? The new manager will have a mix of Hughton-players, Lambert-players and his own, and then have the same struggle that Hughton now has in adapting players to play a way they may not be suited to. This summer the new manager won't be able to bring in enough players to play the way he wants perfectly, so we'd likely end up with a transitional season like we do now, as Hughton builds "his" squad. If we stick with Hughton though and survive (which I don't think is impossible), then this summer Hughton can nearly complete "his" squad. The defensive foundations have been laid, and we know Hughton is focussing more on attacking options in the summer. With the right signings, which are scouting team seem more than capable of providing, we'll have much more creativity and threat going forward, without sacrificing the defensive strength. If it works, that should translate into a much more comfortable, and hopefully exciting, next season. I don't think Hughton likes these dour performances any more than we do, but at the moment it's a means to an end. He's shown with previous clubs that he can play attacking football, so hopefully we'll see that at Carrow Road next season. Great comment. Goal-line technology is really the least of our worries. There's maybe 3 or 4 cases a year where it'll be helpful, at great expense to clubs. If you want to bring in technology, then I think video replays, or a fuller implementation of Hawkeye, would be the way to go. Next season we'll still see dubious off-side calls, missed fouls go unpunished, and corners, throw-ins, etc given the wrong way. It wouldn't really be too hard to give the 4th (or a 5th) official a tv screen and a headset to communicate with the ref. He'd see the replays and be able to overturn incorrect calls. I also don't buy the argument that it'd slow the game down. If an incorrect offside call is made and leads to a goal, then play has stopped anyway as players celebrate, etc, so there's time then to check a monitor to make sure it's the right decision. Nobody will care if the call was wrong but no goal results. Equally, getting corners correct shouldn't take too much time, as you've got to wait for the CB's to trundle up from the back anyway. It'd be cheaper to train officials properly, but you can remove the human element much more with technology, so I don't think it's something to be feared. Ditching the extra officials in Champions League games would probably pay for some of it! I really don't see the point in them, I've never once seen one give anything.
Did someone tell Howard Webb that Toon were at home to Man Ure today, or is there another reason he went to the wrong match?
I thought I'd come and have a look here and I'm not really surprised. In the face of what should have been victory for us and terrible, criminal officiating some are resolute, angry and want justice. Others continue to side with any element acting against our club. Some fans want it and others don't, it's very clear.
If you want to be technically 100% correct then the Norwich player pulled Giroud first - so its a penalty. You can't have it all ways.
