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Rosberg asks for team orders

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by WestCoastBoogaloo, May 23, 2011.

  1. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

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    Oh grow a sense of humour. It was a more colourful way of telling fred that the point he was making was not a valid one.
     
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  2. Delete Me

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    Both drivers got to the limit on what they could do with it. The car has gone backwards and all I hear is Norbert and Brawn talk BS at every press confrence.

    Roll on 2012!!!
     
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  3. EternalMSC

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    They did, Cosicave had a problem but I understand why he wanted it toned down a bit so I wont be awkward about it.
    I am losing patience with Mercedes, Michael has proved that he can max out the car as well as Rosberg, the car is not good enough again. If Alonso or Hamilton or Vettel sat in the car I am adamant they would have the same speed, they only came about winning because of the car they are sat in, the only driver out of all of them that I can see something special in is Hamilton.
     
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  4. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    your point came across far more eloquently and more understandable than mine, but roughly the same. Rosberg is good at going aroud a track, but not so good at going around cars at the same time. If you're in equal cars and you can't overtake your slower team-mate how're you gonna overtake a faster competitor in a faster car? More of a driver than a racer, would make a good number 2 at Ferrari perhaps?
     
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  5. cosicave

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    A couple of points I think worthwhile Miggins:

    1/ Thinking back to Alonso last season, he needed - nay: demanded! - that Massa be moved out of the way when team orders were illegal, so in this sense, Rosberg's supposed request is entirely consistent with Alonso's precedent.

    2/ Team orders are no longer illegal. Therefore, regardless of any outcry (let's remember that in the Alonso case, the outcry came was the result of a rule being in place which was not upheld), Rosberg's request does not flout the rules.
     
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  6. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    oh, I know it is legal, but it everytime someone uses it there's a public moan.
     
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  7. cosicave

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    Well, I would agree this was certainly true when orders were illegal. It will be interesting to see the reaction when (not if) it happens now that it is acceptable - at least according to the rules.
     
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  8. WestCoastBoogaloo

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    Force India already used it in Australia to move Di Resta out of the way for Sutil's benefit.
     
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  9. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    Aah yes. Thanks Westy. As is said in the USA, 'I rest my case'; I missed the public outcry…
     
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  10. ErnieBecclestone

    ErnieBecclestone Well-Known Member

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    Well at least we could all have had a good laugh, move over Michael !
     
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  11. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

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    I thought bitterness and acidic schumacher attitude would have subsided somewhat since Schumachers absence, however it seems it has only got worse.

    Some day you will look past the people he "cheated" and realise his brilliance
     
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  12. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    ;) Ha! Well, I suppose it's a matter of one's perspective isn't it Jacky? - Good job there are two sides to every story eh? - It sort of balances things a bit…

    But right now I think Rosberg could do with a loyal foot-soldier like yourself. He seems a bit miffed sitting between the devil
    :undecided: and the deep blue sea and there are plenty of people who don't blame him for that…
     
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  13. EternalMSC

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    spot on. :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  14. EternalMSC

    EternalMSC Well-Known Member

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    Did anyone watch the intro to the Spanish GP? Maurice Hamilton got it spot on.
     
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  15. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    when Coulthard let Hakkinen through, when Barricello let Schumacher through team orders were legal they caused a hoo haa, I'm pretty sure the Schumie fans, of which there are many, wouldn't have been happy if he'd been moved aside, so I think there would've been a moan. Not worth it for mercedes.
     
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  16. genjigonzales

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    I think fans don't like to see drivers who are clearly capable of winning a race moved out of the way of the team's favoured driver until later in the season when the favoured driver is the one with a significantly better chance of winning the title. Further down the field, if a driver is asked to move out of the way of his faster team mate to give him a shot at chasing another driver down and getting more points for the team (cf. Hakkinen/Coulthard vs. Villeneuve, European GP 1997) then I think people expect that.
     
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  17. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

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    what did he say?
     
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  18. genjigonzales

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    "Hello and welcome to the Spanish GP."
     
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  19. EternalMSC

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    He said "People only remember Schumacher for his bad moments and not for his success, which is very sad", something along the lines of this.
     
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  20. Bergkamp a Dutch master

    Bergkamp a Dutch master New Member

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    I'm a bit late joining in BUT - 'Some day you will look past the people he "cheated" and realise his brilliance'.

    ahem.... rather a long queue. Anyway Rosberg is a paper tiger. He has to learn from the master and just force him off the road.

    (holding my breath for the outcry).
     
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