thatchers done one

Touche'. (Or is that touchy?)

I tried to make the point earlier in this thread that I was signing on in Hull for 2 years in the early 80s, I certainly didn't blame one politician or even one political party for that.

It was a situation that had arisen over decades and that still exists unfortunately in this city today.

Being out on a limb, not having a history of skilled manufacturing, exceptionally poor local politicians, few natural resources etc have all conspired to make Hull what it is. **** all jobs.

That's no one person's or party's fault.

 

RIP Maggie, she was a lady who stuck to her word and yes did some bad things, but she also did quit a few good things, how many people now sit in their own homes. all the people slagging her off are prob to young to remember the drab yrs before her, and its a sign of our times that people want to slag off on old lady. we all have people who love us or hate us.

Respect

 

And what about leaving it there along with a few more to scare the buggers off? ... Just a thought.

 

Marmite divides opinion,but it doesn't **** it's brown ooze,all over your face

 

For one you must have been a very boring level headed 16 year old if you took the dole so philosophically.

For two, I had two older brothers one left school in 74 and walked straight into a n apprentciship as did all his mates. The other left school in 78 and walked straight into an apprenticeship as did all his mates.
I left in 81 and spent a year on the dole, as did all my mates.

 

I wonder if we will observe a minute's silence before the Bristol City home game?

 

So do you think Hull Council have always had a huge amount of money tucked away somewhere that they've chose not to invest? Talk sense.
Regions prosper when they have national investment, mainly in the shape of industry being sited there. It's always been Tory policy to keep the money and jobs in their own heartland ie. the South.

 

So Hull really prospered with all the investment put in under Blair/Brown years then?

 

I think Hull City Council have been far less successful in persuading companies to invest in their city than almost any other similar council in the country. (Remember Nissan going to Sunderland?). It's not about how much money we (or any other city) have in the council coffers. (Surely you know this?!)

You seem to think 'investment' is state-controlled.

It isn't.

It goes where returns look most promising.

 

Conservatives - run by elitists that favour the free market
Labour - run by elitists that favour the free market (but pretend not to)

 

Councils can help look business look promising though. They can improve the infrastructure, make Public/Private partnerships in order to help regenerate the more derelict areas (Victoria Dock for example). Choosing not to renovate and regenerate certain areas won't help in encouraging businesses to invest.

 

http:// http://m.local.stv.tv/glasgow/news/220638-council-says-stay-away-from-george-square-party-for-thatcher/

 

There are any number of factors: educational standards, residual skills, transport links, industrial history, subsidies etc

If we get Siemens, it will be despite our council not because of them. See how they dealt with the Allams to see how 'professional' they are in dealing with would be investors.

 

Clearly you don't. We did have one there. 1 extra ship wouldn't have stopped what they did.

 

You're certainly no Sir Humphrey Appleby are you? Industry and public sector jobs end up where it's politically expedient to place them. Of course the government can't dictate to private industry, but it's no coincidence that the vast majority of jobs are in the South.

 

City Agro

1) The papers released under the 30 year rule show that the Naval Chiefs warned the defence secretary John Nott in 1981 that they believed that an attempt would be made on the Falklands. Despite that, at cabinet it was agreed that HMS Endurance would be withdrawn. Tam Dalyell raised concerns in parliament a good two months before the invasion. She ignored this until 7th March 1982 when she asked Nott how long it would take to send a force to the islands.

2) I had two great uncles on either side of the Miners strike. The one who voted for Thatcher and disliked Scargill intensely actually admitted years afterwards that Scargill had been right about the real intention of the coal board. He said that only certain mines were made unworkable, (and he supervised many of these) with the idea that the profitable ones could be privatised at later point once the NUM had been brought down. Instead we bought German coal from an industry subsidised by the West German government. Bonkers

3) In a media role, I witnessed the change in the relationship between the miners and the police, initially local coppers ( brothers, cousins, friends) - no problems, then the north/south switch, people being stopped on the motorway told to turn back by the police on the threat of arrest and the unedifying site of coppers waving money at the miners, whilst having all expenses (inc. their booze) paid for whilst staying over in Cleethorpes. Disgraceful

 

No it didn't and I make no excuses for them. In many ways New Labour was far more interested in PR than real Socialist policies of improving the lot of their core voters.

 

Link doesn't work mate.