thatchers done one

Oh, yes - sorry! I forgot it was joined to Britain and isn't an island at all! Just another Irish myth.....

 

Oh i'm sorry Agro,but i feel you may have misunderstood. The cheap shot comment was aimed at the fact,you took that Gerry Adams quote,and used it to make Craig look like an IRA sympathiser. You know he's not,but you just went ahead and implied it anyway. Get me now ?

 

Some of you seem to be confusing "love" and "respect" for not wanting to be glad an 87 year old lady is dead. Im not defending her policies, she made some truly terrible decisions, but the point is, she made decisions and stuck by them. She also made some bloody good ones looking back. You'd have to have been alive then to know that was really what we needed, even if it wasn't obvious at the time. I wasn't then, nor am I now, a Thatcher supporter, but I gain no pleasure from her dieing.

The Unions NEEDED a good kicking. the IRA NEEDED treating the way they did.

I'd love to hear who the people celebrating her death would like to have seen as PM in her place from that time.

I'll happily dance on the graves of any members of the IRA or Sinn Fein though, having first hand seen their handiwork.

 

I blame the OP...if he hadn't started this, nobody would've noticed she'd gone.

 

No Klutzy

I put up Adams' bile cos it echoes some of the loony bile on here.

I'd be worried if I saw the world the same way Gerry does.

 

This is the best comment on this thread. End of...FACT !!!

 

It's odd how so few mines re-opened after they were closed.

I wonder why.

 

**** me, man - wise up! Do you have any, any idea what happens to a mine once the engineers are withdrawn and the pumps turned off?

FFS!

 

Because they deliberately made them unworkable by flooding and mass concrete in the pitheads which made them financially impossible to reopen.

 

I wonder is anybody is going to change their mind about Thatcher after reading this thread ?

I can't think of anybody who divides opinion in quite the same way

 

Or when the coal runs out and they are no longer economically viable?

 

You are impossible...

 

You're wasting your time, Ray.

 

Phil Brown springs to mind.

 

Quote= StanIsTheMan;
"**** me, man - wise up! Do you have any, any idea what happens to a mine once the engineers are withdrawn and the pumps turned off FFS!?"

I shouldn't bother with facts, Tory Boy's on a mission.

 

We have an estimated 50 to 100 years of coal reserves in this country but we would sooner import from Poland and Australia is this logical

 

I remember at the time I was working with chap from S Yorks who explained to me that many of the seams there were almost exhausted and down to 18 inches or 2 ft in height- unlike Notts which still had much bigger seams. Hence the split in the strike decision.

The level of subsidy to our mines as against the cost of importing coal from the likes of Poland was handicapping industry in an increasingly negative way.

Unless of course, you believe that certain jobs or certain industries can never be touched.

The miners unfortunately were (mis)led by Scargill- he sought conflict and he got it. And lost it,

I remember 1973 and the 3 day weeks, powercuts and all that NUM-induced **** that overthrew a democratically- elected government. The miners' leaders and their Labour party affiliates enjoyed that and got a taste for it.

It's a shame rank and file honest working people got used as pawns in that struggle, but their elected representatives in the NUM must bear the blame for that.

 

If its cheaper, yes.

Why should the taxpayer subsidise a declining industry with escalating costs, specially one which causes problems with the environment?

 

I was one of Maggie's millions Craig- signed on at Market Place for two years from 81 to July 83. I had plenty of time to watch tv and read the papers back then.

Where you around at the time?