OT- Margaret Thatcher Dead- RIP

A screenshot just taken from the BBC News site...

The last line was just so ironic I had to grab it.

 

Number 5 seems ironic since it was Thatcher who stole the milk from the schools!!

 

Aye. Wizard of OZ. the witch is deed.

 

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Thatcher destroyed British industry in order to satisfy her psychopathic hatred of the unions. Under her tenure unemployment rose from one to five million.. With the unions powers destroyed, many people ended up working over 90 hours a week for less than a pound an hour, whilst the rich were racking it in. Will I be mourning Thatcher's death: will I hell..

 

Does no one else think that Britain was a horribly dysfunctional society in the 70's in which the largest, or at least a principal, element was the trade unions and the employment/trace union legislation that had been passed ?

That wouldn't mean you have to like Margaret Thatcher (I don't - - she was friends with Reagan) but surely it is a bit of relevant context

 

There is no doubt that the trade unions needed reforming, but Thatcher chose to use the police, army and the controlled press as her weapons of choice to crush British industry in order to satisfy her psychopathic ambitions to destroy them..

 

It took the death of a witch to finally produce the day I agreed with one of your posts!!

 

Good riddance

 

Yes, she did what she had to do to get the country working again. Yes.

But did she overstep that mark? Oh, yes indeed and she revelled in it.

She used the police force as a state run army and I remember Steve Harper a few years ago describing how he felt the people were treated by the police during the miners' strike. I was thinking about becoming a copper until I saw the police waving five pound notes at the starving miners. The police and the government are there to protect and serve the people not mash them into a bloody pulp.

Yes, the unions needed to be taken down a peg or two. I admit that it were the unions which destroyed the ship building on the three rivers, the Tyne, Wear and the Tees. First one lot, the Cabinetmakers, the skilled workers and craftsmen, would go on strike for more pay because they were more skilled and time served. They would get their rise and then the Boilerworkers and Fitters, the less skilled, would demand equality because they felt that equal work deserved equal pay. They would hold out until they won, then the first lot would go out again and so on.

Little wonder why ships never got built here any more.

The printing unions and the chapels were a disgrace. They weren't looking after the working man, they were looking after themselves. Try to get a job as a dock crane driver and unless your father and grandfather was a driver then the union wouldn't let you work.

That said, a lot of the union power had to go. One man one vote was forced in because the unions wouldn't embrace democracy voluntarily and it's hard looking back to see how that was the norm.

But she and truly overstepped the mark. She took revenge on the unions and union members. Consett had some good profitable industry; the steel in particularly. Not only was it closed down but it was demolished to make sure that people couldn't work there again. So anyone who opposed her was destroyed which should never be forgotten.

She could have done wonders for the country when the union power was broken. She could have changed the country so that the workers were working in a proper environment. It only takes a look overseas to Germany to see how their industrial landscape is. We could have had the same, we could have had our own industry making things for Britain rather than being subservient to the Square Mile.

Yes, she did a lot of good. Then she destoryed all that she did by taking revenge on the people. Her friend, Pinochet, would have applauded.

I will never forgive her for what she's done to the people of this country nor to the country's economic backbone. Where are the apprentices these days learning how to turn, to weld or to construct anything? Instead we have acres and acres of call centres where industry used to be. Thatcher's legacy.

 

Thank you.

Seems balanced assessment and far more informed than I could be.

 

Yee hah. Saved me loads of time mate. Only thing I would also add is that she also failed to attack the corruption in her government with the same vigour she did other things in her reign too. Her supporters choose to overlook that. And then of course you have her relationship with Murdoch and the spiral that set off with regards to the press in this country.

Unfortunately for all the good things people achieve when given power, they always seem to manage to **** it up in equal measure.

 

Not giving them my address

 

The reasonships are not built has bog all to do with the unions.(don't get me started on who's less skilled either. It's an attitude of superiority like that, that you complaining about). After the second world war. Our country did nothing to modernise our industry. While a destroyed Europe and Japan rebuilt with new techniques and equipment. All the shipping contracts were going to them unsurprisingly. They earned far more than we did and still put the work out cheaper. But that caused inflation which meant our living went down. So we fought for rises. I worked abroad during Thatchers reign mostly as we were paid far more and for less hours. It was easier work and the Europeans were bone idle compared to us. We got a week off and fares home every 3 weeks and the company paid our digs. But our middle and upper management could not see why we could not compete at home and our gov. would not invest. All of the work developed in the UK was going abroad including our naval ships. No chance that would happen in any other country. Their work never left their shores. (yes i know there were unions causing to much bother) but look at France and their unions. The Germans, Dutch and Norwegians etc have way stronger unions. But their lifestyles are such where they rarely have to bother. Their govs. look after their people. et ****in cetera. I could go on.
There are only **** houses left for poor people to rent. The post office was made into a profit making company. (well done) then sold instead of using the profits to back up the treasury. Don't kid yourself the poor could buy shares. Aye at the start. They made their 50& profit then got rid. Now it's in the hands of the rich. Exactly where it had been intended to go. I could write all day on what a sly working class hater she was. The rich will always rip the **** out of us. If they had parted with the money they make of our backs and had moderised. We would be flying. But they do not want us to thrive. Worrying about work means you will accept more **** and feel lucky to have a job. So there.

 

Classic, Thatcher the Milk Snatcher.

 

Petition: No State funeral for Margaret Thatcher

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/45966

Keep this going folks, some are claiming it wont be a " state funeral", but if the tax payers are paying for its a state funeral

We the tax payer shouldnt be paying 1 penny for that witch

 

The brain dead Mark Thatcher that made a mint from his mums connections should pay for the funeral, he made enough out of us.

 

Good summary by CDGH, but I can't join in with almost a celebration about the death of an old lady.

I never voted for her, and she did little good for the North East - many would rightfully say great harm.

But the unions did massively more harm for British industry since the 1960's than one person who, in all fairness, stood up for Britain internationally.

I'll take cover now ...

 

She also did a lot for this country. People like me from Walker were able to get on the housing ladder and make better lives for ourselves. She took on the unions which made life better for millions of workers. ( I was forced out of a job because I wouldn't join the union ) and when you had people like " Red Robbo " " Scargill " etc calling strikes day in day out and costing working families money whilst they were picking up their union wages it made my blood boil.

I also remember thousands of new jobs being created down here in the Midlands through new businesses.

She wasn't right all the times but I wish she was PM now to see how she'd deal with all these terrorists escaping deportation and milking our welfare system.

 

Something that badly needs addressed.