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Go away Rodgers - learn how to scout your own players!

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by Goodland, Apr 2, 2013.

  1. Pete from Crete

    Pete from Crete Active Member

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    Leighton James-the greatest LEFT BACK?-He was a winger!
     
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  2. Norway-jack

    Norway-jack Well-Known Member

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    And that sums up dai in a nutshell, can't even get the most famous swans players position correct!

    I don't know anyone who has issues with laudrups tactics. People forget that he has no experience of the prem league so in that respect he has done an incredible job.

    Look at everton home then everton away. Laudrup knew what was required and the team carried it out. Did Rodgers ever cut his tactical cloth accordingly ? Did Martinez ? Did Sousa ? ...no

    Daiswan needs to wind his neck in a bit on this one, I'm all for constructive criticism and being objective but what the guy is saying is bordering on lunacy, it isn't even in the general ball park of where the swans are at right now and quite frankly it's insulting that some of our so called fans are totally forgetting how far the club has come in such a short time.

    This is the greatest swans team anyone has ever witnessed, we are not world beaters and probably never will be, but we should show a bit more respect to the manager and players, people seem to forget playing in front of 2000 people ,hitting it long and watching players that were only a couple of levels up from local league football!! Let's base stuff on a crumb of reality and not live in fantasy world like dais wan and a few others...it is cringworty to read and also embarrassing considering what the team has achieved.
     
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  3. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    This
     
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  4. aswan_dam

    aswan_dam Well-Known Member

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    With regard to performances falling off recently I would say what has happened is more or less inevitable .

    Like with any project, whether it's trying to stay in the Premier League or building a bridge or whatever, if you reach your basic goal ahead of schedule then it's human nature to take your foot off the pedal. We reached 40 points, won the League Cup and gained entry to Europe in the space of a week. Although we all want the team to keep driving forward to the finish line we may have to accept that will be tough to achieve.

    I'm sure all the Swansea players don't like 3 defeats on the bounce and as Ivor said if it weren't for a match official and Gareth Bale we would be at least 2 points better off.

    It will be interesting to see what Man Utd do with their end of their season. They should tie up the league with 5 or 6 games to spare and with no cup competitions to play for, we may see their end of season suffering a similar fate.
     
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  5. ValleyGraduate12

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    Dai suggesting that Michael Laudrup, (the man who has brought us our 1st piece of major silver wear, European football, PL survival with a sack full of games to go, brought in quality players such as Michu and Chico, not to mention improving the likes of Routs, and developing the side into a team that can now play 3-4 effective gameplans, all in his first season) be replaced is totally and utterly rubbish. In fact its probably the biggest wum post I have ever read on this forum <doh>
     
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  6. trundles left foot

    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    Valley totally agree with you, But for somone to Wuming this badly on our own board is absurd. You can not help but bite in reply to what he is saying. I was accused of not being a proper supporter for disagreeing.
     
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  7. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    you know what i mean with leighton <doh> ....Some clubs would have sacked laudrup by now and you know it......I'm saying that if we go to the end of the season like we have been playing then he has to go, just because we got into europe by beating a second division club is great,,,,well im happy we are there but league form is more important and i am putting a case from all the other fans who are not got a love in with laudrup and dont care who the manager is as long as he can do a job when the going gets tough....I agree that these last 10 games has seen that there is a question mark about his methods and he needs to answer them in the next 7 games....If he dont and we start next season like we ended plus with some players gone then it wont be cardiff as relegation favorites it will be both of us......No individual is worth more than the club as we can all see by the sackings through all divisions.....He has 7 games to get us back on track and i hope he can do it, ....I want him to do it....but loyal fans who pay a lot of money to support the club has every right to vent their concerns as we see many doing....
     
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  8. It'sChicoTime

    It'sChicoTime Well-Known Member

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    Of course they bloody wouldn't. You seem to think we are a top 4 team, and we simply aren't. You say Brendan is a better manager, how come you didn't criticise him when he won 2 in 9 games, 1 in eight and took until January to get our first away win?
     
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  9. trundles left foot

    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    Never mind we beat your beloved Liverpool at their place and beat the european champions ver 2 legs, something Barcelona couldnt do. But no you are right ML just isnt up to the job. <doh>
     
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  10. Dilligaf

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    I'm actually lost for words :eek:
     
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  11. trundles left foot

    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    Now that must be a first.
     
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  12. swanseaandproud

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    Tell me Who is looking down on who..<laugh> I thought Brendan was going to be down the bottom according to most of you and laudrup was the better manager..<laugh> what a laugh that turned out to be but a few of us knew that anyway......Laudrup has been useless for a good while now as fans are writing in to say, his tactics are wrong and he has changed the way we are playing far to much. he changed a winning formula that saw us compete with the big clubs and even the players are concerned.....dont tell me that is the sign of a good manager because if you want to see a good manager that was in a far worse and much harder job to do in his first season then look no further than our last manager.....He is the one showing laudrup how it should be done as he looks down on us....I hope for his sake we do something and show improvement at Norwich or he will get more flack from fans.....It's not about winning there either its all about performance at the end of the day and he must show he can handle the pressure....
     
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  13. ivoralljack

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    Dai, do you not pay any attention at all to what other people post? The guys have posted more than valid responses to what I regard as your ridiculous assertions, yet you plough on regardless with no acknowledgement of what they have to say. And what they say makes SENSE. With all due respect, buddy, what you are posting about Michael Laudrup is a complete nonsense.

    This guy, in my opinion, and most other people's, is the best thing that ever happened to our club. Okay, we have the odd blip. So what!! We are who we are. We are not a top side but we are trying to get there within the limits of our standing as a club. And they are tough limits. Your precious Brenda didn't fancy another season working within those constraints and hauled his arse out of the club the first decent chance he got.

    Let's get one thing straight, Dai. Rodgers isn't fit to clean Laudrup's shoes as a football man. Laudrup has worked for many years at the very top level of the game. Yes, for the most part as a player but let me remind you of the clubs he graced: Juventus, Barcelona, Real Madrid and Ajax. Are you trying to tell me that he learned nothing working with those world class players, managers and coaches?

    What does Rodgers offer? As a player - FAILED. Watford manager - FAILED. Reading manager - FAILED. Chelsea? He never got near the first team as a coach: and his success at Swansea was mainly due to the calibre of the squad he inherited and the footballing philosophy that had been instilled over many years by Flynn, Jackett, Martinez and Sousa. He was fortunate to arrive and take over a finished product that was ready for promotion and took a lot of credit for the work others had put in before him.

    I really can't be asked to carry on and justify the value of Michael Laudrup to us because I can feel myself getting worked up about it and I don't want to risk a ban by expressing myself the way I want to. Suffice to say that you have really outdone yourself with this one. It might be your opinion, Dai, but, in this case, I regard your opinion as a complete load of unmitigated garbage. And that's putting it kindly.

    By the way, Rodgers doesn't only pale into insignificance when compared to Laudrup in football terms. In my opinion Laudrup also outshines him as a man. Many times I cringed with embarrassment listening to the blarney pouring out of Rodgers' mouth when it was obvious to everybody that our performance had stunk the place out. I have never, ever, felt that about Michael Laudrup. He is a patently honest man who tells it how it is, good or bad. He conducts himself at all times with dignity, grace, intelligence and modesty. He is a man who delivered our first ever major trophy. He is a man who has put "little Swansea City" on the world stage. And he is a man who I am proud to have as the manager of my football club.
     
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  14. ValleyGraduate12

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    Spot on Dai, I agree 100% with that statement. He has changed the formula that allowed us to compete with the big clubs. As a result of this change in formula, we are now capable of BEATING these big clubs, and able to do it on their own patch. His change in formula has been that disastrous, it also led to the winning of the league cup and the clubs first ever major piece of silver wear in the club's centenary year <ok>
     
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  15. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    All i am saying is...Fans who support the club through thick and thin have just cause to write into the press and appear on sport talk shows with their concerns and criticism of laudrups tactical abilities. I support their concerns 100% because as we draw closer to the end of the season and every club is fighting harder for points we have gone backwards or even we could not care as its job done.......we pay our season ticket money to watch us give 100% in all 38 games and not the crap we are witnessing now...Its not about the last 3 losses in a row it is deeper than that and those of us who have watched the swans for years know the difference between trying and not trying....we would say the same thing if we were in div 2.......Why are some fans saying this as they know we are safe this season. Ill tell you why its because if we finish in relegation form that we are in then you can bet we will start the next season in the same mode, and with the players we may lose then its imperative we keep the rest at 100% effort and a manager who has gone from one of the best to a relegation form manager....Its not about win,lose or draw its far deeper than that and i appreciate that its far to complex for some to understand.....
     
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  16. swanee

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    I think Dai has a point. The way things are going, it`s not looking too good. The players are lifeless, the management team seem to have lost the plot and the natives are restless.

    Bring back Brendan I say, with his inside knowledge of the game AND his contacts we could really go places. As he only seems to sign players he has previously worked with, we`d be odds on to sign Suarez, Sturridge, Allen and loads of others. Top of the league, I say top of the league. Let the good times roll, accept no substitute.
     
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  17. mustyfrog

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    that is actually a fair comment, and with the run in i cant see us getting more than 6 points, i hope i am wrong, obviously want more
     
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  18. swanselona

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    Thats not supporting the club through thick and thin then is it. Thats criticizing at the first given chance, as you said yourself its only been 3 games, so mr supporter, sorry wait, your not a supporter, but anyway, how can you justify that comment now.

    Nope still in 9th, after losing to West Brom on their own patch (should have been a draw)
    Losing to Arsenal and Spurs, yur bloody deluded you know that right.

    Come back to reality Dai, we are missing you, ok we are not really, but its better than the ****e your posting now.

    Name me a club that when safe, secure and what not, continue to give 100%. All teams drop off, as had been mentione da few times, its human nature once the job is done, yes they can do it a bit better, but they worked ther bloody guts out to get us where we are, give the lads some slack.

    You mean like we ended last season in relegation form, yep, that worked out didn't it, god you talk so much drive

    Yep you have showed us all how much you fail to understand it.

    To prove a poitn on how narrow minded you are, you have said onthis forum, that we are only in Europe because we beat a division 2 club. Now that comment as it stands is fact, however what you failed to even mention, is in our run up we knocked out Liverpool on their own patch, we beat the Champions of Europe on their own patch, and in 2 legs stopped them from scoring a single goal. You see, a supporter would remember that fact, and not look narrowly at the team we beat in the final, but the whole campaigh to get there, but then, thats what supporteres do see Dai, so can understand why you didn't.

    Apologies for poor spelling, think i got a migraine coming :(
     
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  19. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    Theres nothing complex about it ,so don't question people's intelligence because you may be surprised that sometimes you appear to be not the sharpest tool in the box . You're on a mission again to denigrate the club ,it used to be Jenkins , then Graham now the manager .you're like a dog with a bone sometimes I'm sorry to say you'e truly exceeded all expectations with this one.
     
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  20. mustyfrog

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    To prove a point on how narrow minded you are, you have said on this forum, that we are only in Europe because we beat a division 2 club. Now that comment as it stands is fact, however what you failed to even mention, is in our run up we knocked out Liverpool on their own patch, we beat the Champions of Europe on their own patch, and in 2 legs stopped them from scoring a single goal. You see, a supporter would remember that fact, and not look narrowly at the team we beat in the final, but the whole campaign to get there, but then, thats what supporters do see Dai, so can understand why you didn't.

    another good point
     
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