I'm trying to get my head around certain events in my life and my long standing love for the Hoops...Now for as long as I can remember my life has been two steps forward and three steps back. I've had a couple years when everything went great, like when Ollie got us promotion, I had a really good year, and in 2011 fantastic year for me in everything I did! In 96 when we were relegated I lost everything, my business, my missus, my home, everything!!! all in the space of three months. I could go on and on, but I wont. now since promotion to the Premier league, the last two years have been CRAP! for me, I lost another business venture, my partner had Cancer and I'm polo-mint again! and my Hoops are yet again starring at relegation. The reason for this post is simple, I need to know how fellow R's life's are like, is it me that is CURSED OR QPR!!!! or both? or is it Karma that I decided to support the hoops to suffer a life time of disappointment?
Pretty much the same here. I reckon Loftus Road must be built over some ancient human sacrifice site or the like. Everytime we or the team set foot there the curse is renewed and formerly decent players are turned to ****e!
You're not on your own Ed, the last 2 seasons have been rubbish, totally unenjoyable. Lets just hope Barnsley stay up just for us next season
In a perverse way I am almost looking forward to Championship football next season, these have been 2 seasons from hell in a football way....
I firmly believe 100% that being QPR is a test for the gifted. We are a very special club and enjoy a mystical attraction. This latest episode is there to united the gifted following. Brothers you have been chosen ... accept this as a gift of life
without foundation and learning you can never travel far ... it will be what it will be and the story is not over until it's over
'special' as in 'challenged' Dave? Feels like it sometimes........ Sorry Eddie, think its your personal karma.... thankfully my life has not tracked the performance of the team, although it has led to heavy drinking on occasion.....
Interesting, I believe life is 75% fate and 25% free will...and yes before you ask, I do believe in karma, especially Samsara!
Taking into account that it's statistically proven that we are in all probability living in a computer simulation can't our overlords do a reboot please? http://www.simulation-argument.com/simulation.html
Interesting but my focus waned a bit. The maths looks patchy insofar as it looks like it's been spuriously applied to meet its own ends. I'm more inclined towards a belief that once the developing world reaches an advanced state then they will atrophy in terms of scientific progress in much the same way as the developed world has done over the past couple of decades. The advancement of technology will fall by the wayside in the same way the space race has, purely through a shift in priorities. The cutting edge will be found in clever use of mineral resources and energy. Furthermore, the advancement of computing actually hinders intellectual development to the point of obliterating the notion of super human strains with the majority being relatively idle in their quest for knowledge and that majority will ultimately become increasingly fearful of the pockets of learned individuals. In fact, the relatively low wages of the intelligencia compared to those who excel in other fields already highlights an underlying fear of a genuine meritocracy (or it might just be widespread indifference). Progress will plateau and ultimately fizzle to the point where a computer capturing the brain processes that mean I enter a room and don't know what I did it for are impossible (the human imperfections would be the most problematic to accurately model in a future simulation). Good essay though because I now have a counter argument to something I hadn't even considered 20 minutes ago....
King hell, its philosophy 101. I love these discussions but that fact its even if we are in a simulation or a civilization/ species bound for stagnation it doesn't matter, because even if I knew either to be true it wouldn't change the way I behave one iota. Fun to speculate though, only gets dangerous when speculation turns into bizarre belief and does impact behaviour, or more importantly impacts on people who don't share the bizarre belief. I won't take it further for fear of causing offence. Nice find with that paper Imaz. Somehow it warms the cockles of my heart to think that someone is making a living out of thinking about this kind of stuff, and doubtless that I am, in an obscure and diffuse way, probably paying for it. Exactly why I don't mind a bit of modest state funding for arts and activities that might die without it, like ballet or opera. Even though I have no interest in these things, its a sign of civilization that we have them. Strangely at my time of life I am developing, or rediscovering, an interest in classical music though. Used to listen to a lot in my early 20s, but somehow lost the knack, now rediscovering it. Very pleasurable. Jesus, I'm wandering.........
I think the Loftus Road location might be somewhere in this 1872 map, which is part of an interesting series. Anyone care to spot our location? Could also be on one of the other sheets, all of which you can zoom in on. http://london1872.com/stanford16.htm please log in to view this image
Same theme, different angle. There's no denying the last two years have been a nightmare for us Rs. We're like an old bus that's been acquired for a major overhaul but try as they might, some of the best mechanics just can't get the thing fired up. Short of going Abramovich / Mansour crazy, we've got enthusiastic owners willing-cum-desperate to buy success. They've brought in two managers at opportune moments (window-wise), who've in turn brought in players with reasonable track records. Whilst there's been a worry that some are in the last chance saloon, the mainstay of the sides selected could hardly have been described as geriatric. Having played, watched, managed, ate, drank and shat football for decades, I've never seen anything like what we've experienced since we got back into the prem. Last year was bad enough but at least we got a few reasonable results at each end of the season - and had the luxury of other games going our way to keep us in the mix. This year, no chance. None of our relegation rivals are as odds on as we are to lose games... Fact is with the set-up we've got we should be kicking a lot more arse than we have been. Even before 'Arry came in, everyone from bookies to pundits and all points between, had us down as surefire mid-table or better. Why? Cos we had too much quality to think otherwise. Yet even with 'Arry's reinforcements, solid CB, striker and a potent midfield, almost half the starting eleven, we can't score a penalty and struggle to get a point. It's incredible. We haven't even been blighted with injuries, suspensions or particularly bad refereeing decisions. Stick the players in our first 15 in rival shirts and they'd be beating the hoops and a lot of other prem sides all day long. Sure we blame Hughes (another one who had a pretty good pedigree before he came here) cos there's no other explanation for all the farcical returns. True he should've ensured a balanced squad replete with solid CB and strike options and sufficient strength-in-depth. But even that's an oddity in itself. The fact that a manager of his experience, with funds to back him, failed to deal himself a full hand is a just another in a whole series of improbable QPR conundrums. Whole thing just doesn't spell sense - which is why I guess the clouds are swirling and people are presuming parallel pastures somewhere between groundhog day and the wizard of never woz! I'm living in a bubble meself. Karma or cursed? Odd space and clearly jinxed. I'd blame Lotto and their yukky shirt designs... if I thought this rollercoaster of ours started with them that is!
What's really bugging me is that with time to work on the team and tactics, being told these are 'must-win' games, selecting a team that 'on paper' looks capable of getting a result, we continually go out and play like a bunch of strangers and make totally comical errors which ultimately condemn us to our fate. If we lose playing with a bit of style and bravura, as we did at Spurs & Villa, you at least feel we are capable of getting wins with a little bit of luck on our side. But performances like Monday and some of our abject defeats such as Swansea really are not acceptable. I think we just aren't good enough as unit and we are hanging on to the Championship trapdoor by our fingertips and are as good as down. If Harry stays I think there will be a mass clear-out which will include our stalwarts such as Hill, Derry and Mackie. It's no good saying they are needed in the Championship, a side needs to be built that will go up and be competitive with as little tinkering as possible, if those players are not good enough for the Premiership now they won't be in future. THAT was our downfall, Warnock's side was good enough to get us up but not good enough to keep us up without some serious investment straight away, not a week before the window closed, everything from then on smacked of desperation and rationality goes out the window. All this stems from The Goons starving Warnock of funds to line their pockets at our expense. If there is such a thing as Karma then they'll both reap it in bucketloads, sadly, they are the type of jammy bastards who will come up smelling of roses...
It is quite amazing that we can be worlds away, yet ................. we have so much in common. I can't tell you how close to truth your comments are. As Bomber Harris would say .............. "Press on regardless, chaps".
I am sticking with my mantra, what comes around goes around Good times coming I just hope I am there to see it
Bang on ........ We looked too much like Reading so the 'Powers that be' are dragging us down with them. The Larger hoops have always looked better ................ that is who we were /are.
Right on, thanks for the info. http://qprreport.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=print&thread=18476 "Shepherds Bush FC Post by bushman on Dec 5, 2010, 11:32am Shepherd's Bush Football Club The club were founded as Old St Stephen's FC in 1880 in Westminster, although they soon moved out to play in Denmark Hill and Nunhead. In 1892 they were founder members of the Southern Alliance, one of the first attempts at a league in southern England, and topped the table before the competition was abandoned before the 1892-93 season was out. In 1894 they went on to become a founder member of the Southern League Second Division and finished third in their inaugural season; however they lost a test match against Royal Ordnance Factories and did not achieve promotion to the First Division. They continued to play in the Southern League under the Old St Stephen's name for another three seasons, never performing better than their inaugural season. During this time, in 1895, they moved across London to Shepherd's Bush, playing on Shepherd's Bush Green itself, which was to host football at the 1908 Summer Olympics. In 1898 Old St Stephen's merged with another local team to become Shepherd's Bush FC. They took Old St Stephen's place in the Southern League and continued to play up until the 1901-02 season. Gaining the nickname of "the Bushmen", the club moved to Wormholt Farm, but when that site was threatened with development in 1904, Shepherd's Bush built and moved into the Loftus Road ground nearby; they played their first game there against Old Malvernians on October 22, 1904. In 1907 the club re-entered competitive league football, joining the Spartan League and a year later the Isthmian League, where they played until the outbreak of World War I. During wartime, Shepherd's Bush were unable to play any further fixtures and disbanded in 1915. In 1917, their Loftus Road ground was taken over by Queens Park Rangers."
