No, I think belief in God is less speculative than the visitation of advanced beings in spaceships going back however many millennia, although personally I find the notion of a psychonaut quite appealing. I see no evidence of ancient intergallactic technologies either, at least not enough to tie this into a more plausible theory. There is something about the human condition that gives us a sense of wonder and whilst there are numerous plausible theories where or how this originates, nevertheless we have considered our existence for many a millennia and got scared ****less by naturally occurring events. There is no doubt that scientific theories are providing much better answers that the magic bearded bloke brigade in his various religious guises. The problem I have for the space travelers theory is the same, there is no evidence leaving us with belief by choice. Personally, I don't want one ridiculous belief set to be replaced by something equally speculative, albeit a great deal more possible.
I personally think, that Mother Nature needs to boost her activities, too many people on the planet. The amount of people now living on this planet, cannot sustain life for centuries to come. Mother nature, please give this planet a big cull.
Thats fair enough but are you willing to sacrifice yourself and offer yourself to be culled to support this cause or is there some great reason as to why it shouldn't apply to you?
Luckily i live in a country, where Mother Nature does not affect us so much, because we are clean & clever. Those people in the USA who live in Tornado Alley, are thick as ****. Me house blew down again, 3rd time in 4 years, well ****ing move then you pricks. Africa We are dying of starvation, Well stop ****ing reproducing, dont have ****ing 12 kids if you cannot support them, OK 2 might survive in a drought, just by eating the flies arond there mouths, best meal they have had in weeks. India What a ****ing ****hole that is, but keep ****ing reproducing.2nd largest population on the planet & 97% live in ****ing sheds. nuke the ****ers South Africa Gave the world Aids,people living in tin ****ing sheds, whilst the rich of the country live in ****ing mansions, & it was the rich ****ers who were shagging the ****ing prossies. Any other country living on a tectonic plate, Earthquake awaiting, ****ing move.
I cannot even begin to contemplate the absolute stupidity of these callous remarks. In point of fact they defy stupidity You ****ing internet hidden piece of **** moron.
I don't know whether to take that as malicious racism, or just plain stupidity. Either way, its disgraceful. Incidently, by saying God is an astronaut, is the OP referring to the theory of Panspermia? Even if Panspermia is what really happened, it begs the question of where life started originally, and therefore does not really solve the question of creationism. Personally I feel that the idea that life came from a "primordial soup" still seems valid, whether on this planet or another. There is evidence from various experiments that complex organic molecules can be formed from the mixture of molecules thought to be present around the time life began, in similar conditions. Whilst none of these experiments have created life directly (leaving a gap in the paradigm of knowledge for a "god") they lack the timescales necessary to run the experiments fully, simply because running an experiment for thousands of years is tricky!
Its funny how people are always trying to explain god and prove things...... the fact is if god or whatever you call it, if it did exist would be formless.....You cant explain formless things with words, words are sign posts to things we already know, like when i say god you automatically think of a man with a huge beard... A better word then god is consciousness, we are not sepearate from the universe we are it.. when we die we turn into its soil....... We are only this living breathing being for what is less then flicker of the universes life span.... So the funny thing since we are the universe we are actually god per se....We just dont realise it!
I know I certainly would. I think the kinds of people who need culling are the Chinese and Indians, it's ridiculous that over 1 billion people live in each of those countries. China especially, sick ****ers kill millions of Sharks each year just for fins that taste of **** all. And Japan, for killing Whales. And poachers. And those destroying Rainforests.
Panspermia. I had to look that up. That's very interesting. My post was actually a question. What I do believe, very strongly, is that intelligent life did not start on this planet and I would be surprised if one day such life is not discovered somewhere else, or maybe before then that this planet is discovered by intelligent beings from some other Galaxy. This is regardless of the point you make about creationism which I have no option but to accept.
WhiteRoseTiger, I'm sure we've had that thread in GC before, I can't recall it went too well. On the topic of life elsewhere in the universe, I fully believe that it exists, however, equally I can see us never making contact with other life forms. The nearest star, Proxima Centauri is 4.24 light years away, completely unfeasible in terms of any current technology, or planned future technology on Earth, and there are only 50 stars within a 16 light year radius. Even SETI, who have been searching for years, have barely scratched the surface. The observable universe is 93bn light years in radius, never mind the rest of it that we can't see. Even if we could travel at the speed of light, sending anyone to places this far off is still impossible, and likewise for Aliens to come here is also impossible if their technology is no more developed. Never mind sending organisms, just sending signals that far is difficult, there is a delay in transmission sending signals to objects in orbit around the Earth, if we tried to talk to something that far away, you might get a sentence (ignoring a language barrier) from Proxima Centauri every few years. Until we can bend the fabric of the universe (space-time) communication with Extra-terrestrials is limited at best. I also imagine any life forms out there are in the same position. Whilst other Alien races may have made contact with each other, that relies on them being in solar systems close by, or even two planets within the same solar system which are hospitable. I just don't see it happening. Also, resources are a massive issue. Earth is starting to feel a pinch on them, and our technology has only developed so far, maybe there is a limit to how far a civilisation can develop technology before it starts to collapse. Funding for NASA, etc, is being cut slowly, so projects are taking much longer. Alien species must equally be in the same position. Technology needs to first solve the issues of energy, before we can sustainably thing about longer term goals like being able to transport things close to (or even faster than) light. Thats a bit rambling, but does it makes sense?
Er, no, I started a thread asking how many people were so ******ed they believed Genesis was a literal account of the Universe's origins. The only reason it didn't go well is because some people refused to accept that there is currently no evidence that Jesus existed, which was off topic anyway.
I won't list all the examples I know of but here are a couple. In 1901 divers working off the isle of Antikythera found the remains of a clocklike mechanism 2,000 years old. The mechanism now appears to have been a device for calculating the motions of stars and planets please log in to view this image In 1929, a group of historians found an amazing map drawn on a gazelle skin. Research showed that it was a genuine document drawn in 1513 by Piri Reis, a famous admiral of the Turkish fleet in the sixteenth century. The Piri Reis map shows the western coast of Africa, the eastern coast of South America, and the northern coast of Antarctica. The northern coastline of Antarctica is perfectly detailed. The most puzzling however is not so much how Piri Reis managed to draw such an accurate map of the Antarctic region 300 years before it was discovered, but that the map shows the coastline under the ice. Geological evidence confirms that the latest date Queen Maud Land could have been charted in an ice-free state is 4000 BC. please log in to view this image http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_4.htm
No I have not examined th Piri Reis map personally but then again I am not a Cartogropher or an expert in such matters, however experts and cartogrophers have examined it and it is genuine. Take your argument to them. ps I did not say it was created by astronauts or aliens, I was asked about advanced technologies and this comes under that banner.
