Well I prefer Clayton 3.2 miles from Mecca anyday with a clear concience that I know I gave it everything. As for Mr Clueliss does he own "Sandbanks" and charge Arry rent for his luxury pad? I hear Mr P also has an indoor swimming pool (heated) What's the point, he may as well rent a condo because if what I read is correct, half his time is spent in his "Potting shed" when we lose, re his comments tother week in the Sentinel.