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Lee Cattermole /Callum Macmanamon

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by calmcumbrian, Mar 20, 2013.

  1. calmcumbrian

    calmcumbrian Well-Known Member

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    Il Lee had gone in and tackled the young Newcastle lad like the Wigan thug did,everyone in football would have hounded him...and rightly so!How the hell can the Wigan owner and the FA defend not punishing Macmanamon???
     
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  2. Poyet's Eleven

    Poyet's Eleven Well-Known Member

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    If Catts had done that to say a Man United player there's not a doubt in my mind he would have been charged.

    If anyone had done it to a Man United player thry would have been charged
     
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  3. Poyets outburst

    Poyets outburst Member

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    While the fa should have punished macmanamon I think that people should give the kid a break he made a mistake how many of us have made mistakes I carnt believe for the life of me he would deliberately intend to hurt another player (I might be wrong) but we should give him the benefit of the doubt surely think to many people are jumping on the band wagon here I've even seen a few of the toon boys all over the Wigan forum giving them **** why ffs how is it there fault . I do think it was a bad tackle and maybe in future the kid will think twice before diving in like he did and hopefully hadaira or whatever his name is makes a full recovery
     
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    Deletion Requested1 Well-Known Member

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    Although I did think it was a very bad tackle it could be that the mags management are trying to "do a fergie" and influence future decisions I also think the mags "hollier than thou" attitude will backfire on them - they have Tiote and Cabaye who having watched some of their efforts are a broken leg/ligament damaged opponent waiting to happen. If that does occur I will fully expect the same outcry from the toon supporters to get their own player banned (just like they did when Nolan did Anichebie)
     
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  5. Sammy's Silky Skills

    Sammy's Silky Skills Well-Known Member

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    It's a ****ing joke.
     
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  6. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    I honestly think, had Cattermole committed the challenge on the day he'd have been sent off (with no argument from anyone) - regadless of Halsey being able to see it, he'd have made an assumption that it was a bad tackle and red carded him (think the same if it had been Tiote) - Also think he';d have yellow carded Scholes

    Think this lads card is marked now though and he will end up the "new" Cattermole
     
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  7. Jarramag88

    Jarramag88 Well-Known Member

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    That's a good point, his card will now be marked.
     
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  8. Jarramag88

    Jarramag88 Well-Known Member

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    It's not about being hollier than thou. It's about what is right and consistency. Cabaye was banned last season after a tackle on a Brighton player in the fa cup and that was after te ref and linesman had seen it and I am sure the lad was given a free kick for the tackle. Yet the fa step in and ban cabaye after the ref had dealt with the issue. Yet after this mcmanaman tackle nothing is done. That's is what has my back up. And normally after a bad tackle from tiote, he is booked. There is a massive sense of injustice. It's not wigans fault, it's the fa.
     
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  9. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    Jarra the ref and linesman cannot have seen this according to the refs match report otherwise Cabaye couldn't have been banned as the same rule was in place then (And Wigan haven't exactly helped themselves - why didn't Martinez and Whelan say - "It's a little over-exuberant and we will talk to Callum about this and try to calm it down" rether than saying "He didn't do anything wrong, it's a fair tackle" bollocks) The only "Re-refereeing" of incidents comes when a team appeals against a red card and this is where double standards come into play
     
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  10. Jarramag88

    Jarramag88 Well-Known Member

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    I've seen the still screen shots recently from twitter and the ref seen it alright. Like I say I'm sure even a free kick was given for the challenge.
     
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  11. Rick O'Shea

    Rick O'Shea Well-Known Member

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    I think a free kick was awarded moments later when he handballed it.
     
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  12. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    Aye but, as I say (and as I've said before) the referee's reports aren't written at the time of the incident, they are written after the game. Chances are that Cabaye's foul was seen but the ref got pressured into saying he didn't clearly see it (Blinked?) it's all bullshit mate and I completely agree but it's what's written in the report that matters to the FA, not what we all see on a video! It's a bit like the fact that we all know that none of the officials clearly saw the McManaman challenge but the report says that they did - bit like when Turner got sent off against Man City for us - he won the ball and Barry collided with his arm. The ref sent him off for serious foul play (elbow) but the report said "Excessive force" because the ref (Marriner) had time to think of a way around this being appealed against (I am certain this is the case as the ref made the universal "Elbow" signal when he sent him off) - referee's and the FA are a lore unto themselves - they FA know absolutely nothing about the game and what the game should contain
     
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  13. Jarramag88

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    It needs looked at like because players are getting away with all sorts. Balloteli I think last season is another case where no punishment was given out. Can't remember who he fouled or the exact nature but it was a shocking challenge from what I remember.
     
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  14. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    Suarez twice this season has committed terrrible challenges - the one on Distin and the one on Begovic - both potential leg breakers, both yellow cards - and because the ref has deemed this as sufficient punishment, then it's fine. My son (8 years old) went in on a keeper in the same way in a match for his side and when the ref asked him and me (his coach) why he'd done it his answer was literally "Suarez did it last week and he said he was going for the ball" - so that goes to show what kids pick up from professionals
     
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