1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Adkins

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by Whitejock, Mar 18, 2013.

  1. Whitejock

    Whitejock Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2011
    Messages:
    20,876
    Likes Received:
    19,572
    #1
  2. leeds down south

    leeds down south Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2011
    Messages:
    3,031
    Likes Received:
    2,815
    Adkins now down to 4/11 to be next Leeds manager.
     
    #2
  3. Whitejock

    Whitejock Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2011
    Messages:
    20,876
    Likes Received:
    19,572
    Apparently a couple of bookies have stopped taking bets on Adkins now. He apparently dropped from 11/4 to 1/3 in less than an hour before they stopped taking bets. It's rare for the bookies to lose money on new manager appointments, but who knows ....
     
    #3
  4. Josh-LUFC

    Josh-LUFC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2011
    Messages:
    9,285
    Likes Received:
    1,180
    Its more than likely because so many fans are betting on him being the next manager purely because they want him to be the next manager rather than it being likely or not
     
    #4
  5. Whitejock

    Whitejock Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2011
    Messages:
    20,876
    Likes Received:
    19,572
    All of then in one single hour? Bit of a coincidence, that!
     
    #5
  6. Josh-LUFC

    Josh-LUFC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2011
    Messages:
    9,285
    Likes Received:
    1,180
    Maybe, but it seems pointless to bring a manager in now. Shoulda done it in January
     
    #6
  7. Whitejock

    Whitejock Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2011
    Messages:
    20,876
    Likes Received:
    19,572
    Probably, but he's only become available to speak to in the last few days, and he's a hot commodity. Got to get him whilst he's available (and if he wants to come, of course!).
     
    #7
  8. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2011
    Messages:
    28,179
    Likes Received:
    32,692
    Yes if they were going to give him funds, I agree with Warnock that no other manager could get more out of the team than he is at the moment, only because no other manager would have assembled such a bunch.
     
    #8
  9. wasper

    wasper Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2011
    Messages:
    452
    Likes Received:
    160
    It's doesn't matter if Alex Ferguson is in charge of Leeds, if that ****e of owners won't back him with funds we will watch smaller clubs pass us by on their way up.
     
    #9
  10. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2011
    Messages:
    31,796
    Likes Received:
    32,776
    The question is won't or can't surely.
     
    #10

  11. Josh-LUFC

    Josh-LUFC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2011
    Messages:
    9,285
    Likes Received:
    1,180
    I disagree, we see teams go up that have spent next to nothing or similar to us almost every season. Norwich went up and had spent very little and so did Reading. Not long ago Blackpool went up having not spent much. The amount you spend doesn't directly affect your chances of promotion, it improves your chances but if you have a quality manager especially at a club like Leeds where the youth set-up is starting to produce again then you will get promoted. Warnock is constantly saying he has done well but he just hasn't. I calculated he spent well over 3m in the summer, we know Snoddy got sold but then so did Shane Long when Reading got promoted and he is a better player. Better players have joined other clubs for free in the summer as well, look at Aluko for instance. Fantastic player at this level with a real bit of spark, better than anything we have signed with cash in recent years. Max Gradel was bought for peanuts and everyone thinks he is the best player we have had since the prem, they aren't the only ones either. I'm sick of this single minded view that we need to spend a considerable amount to get promoted because its false, just need to be smart with signings. Scout players properly and you will get the rewards, keep bringing through quality from the youth and again you will get the rewards. Bring in an actual quality manager who is much much more modern than Warnock and we will not need to spend much to be able to get promoted. I think alot is down to confidence in this league and Warnock doesn't bring it, every second game he is saying the squad is terrible
     
    #11
  12. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2011
    Messages:
    31,796
    Likes Received:
    32,776
    Well we have tried the not spending plan for the past eight years and it hasn't worked and won't work. Selling our best year in year out also won't work. Newcastle got relegated with 100 m of debt, held on to most of their squad, no panic sales and they quickly re established themselves in the pl. eight years of raping our squad has taken its toll and it'll take forever if you're going to wait for a bunch from the academy to be any use. At best well get two per season and sell one on
     
    #12
  13. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2011
    Messages:
    28,179
    Likes Received:
    32,692
    Not just that but the youngsters are being snapped up by the Manchester teams.
     
    #13
  14. Josh-LUFC

    Josh-LUFC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2011
    Messages:
    9,285
    Likes Received:
    1,180
    Just to prove my point, had a look at a couple teams.

    Hull are second place, they have spent nothing on

    Stockdale, Rosenior, Faye, Bruce, Elmohammady, Koren, Quinn, Boyd, Aluko, Gedo who are in and around the first team and not including there actual squad, not only that I think everyone of them other than Faye and Bruce would get in our first team comfortably. And have spent 300k on the likes of Chester who is regarded as one of the best CBs in the league

    Even the likes of Leicester who are the big spenders of the league have Keane, St. Ledger, King and Nugent who were all free in there first team. All players that would walk into our team as well as the likes of Morgan and Knockaert who were bought for absolute bargains and considered as there best players. This isn't including Danns who went to Leicester of a free

    And you keep looking at every team competing at the top and they all have these quality players that went to them on a free or for very little. We do not need more than 2-3m with any set of players to make them into promotion material which I might add Warnock had over 3m in the summer
     
    #14
  15. Josh-LUFC

    Josh-LUFC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2011
    Messages:
    9,285
    Likes Received:
    1,180
    I know this. I'm saying if your smart about what you do, which there is absolutely no doubt that we have not been then you do not need to spend any decent amount of money to make a promotion winning side
     
    #15
  16. MIGHTY

    MIGHTY Del-Boy

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    24,056
    Likes Received:
    6,311
    Adkins has already stated publicly that he wont be joining leeds. <ok>

    He said he turned down Huddersfield because he wanted to wait for a "BIGGER CLUB" <whistle>
     
    #16
  17. bucks_is_leeds

    bucks_is_leeds Jonny big spuds
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2011
    Messages:
    10,442
    Likes Received:
    7,058
    Theres no such thing as a free signing. A few of the players mentioned aboves signing on fees would have probably scared us off not to mention there weekly wage demands!

    dont forget Hull and the Foxes have been spending money for the last few seasons assembling a squad ready to challenge.
     
    #17
  18. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2011
    Messages:
    28,179
    Likes Received:
    32,692
    @ Josh - You only have to look at what Hull paid for that German striker, wasn't it nearly £3m to see how wrong you are and how far off we are.

    Yes Warnock has flopped, however he spent £3m on building a whole new squad, not 1-2 players, he also received that money mainly be having to sell Clayton and Snodgrass, replacing those for £3m is impossible in itself.

    Warnocks tactics are his down fall, you have to give credit where it is due though and admit his funding wasn't there like it should have been.

    Give a new manager £3m to build a team around what we have fine, give him £3m and tell him he has to sell 2-3 of the slightly better ones first and we have the same problem all over again.

    I would be happy with 3 million invested into the team AND any sales go straight back into the pot. If that were the case I would be looking to sell McCormack, White and one of the central midfielders.
     
    #18
  19. Josh-LUFC

    Josh-LUFC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2011
    Messages:
    9,285
    Likes Received:
    1,180
    Ofcourse there are wages and I'm not saying we won't have to spend money but I'm sick of this "we need a 10m kitty just to start to challenge" attitude. Signing people like Varney and Norris for 500k is stupid when there is actually really good talent out there that doesn't break the bank
     
    #19
  20. Josh-LUFC

    Josh-LUFC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2011
    Messages:
    9,285
    Likes Received:
    1,180
    Yes they paid 3m for the german striker but they have spent relatively little on the rest of the squad especially in the summer and not so much in January admittedly but a huge part of the actual first team was assembled with very little money. In fact that german striker is currently being benched in favour of an on-loan striker
     
    #20

Share This Page