please log in to view this image Swansea City host Tottenham Hotspur at the Liberty Stadium on Saturday 30th March 2013 (KO 15:00) in the 31st round of matches in the 2012-13 Premier League season. Swansea come into the match in 9th place in the table on 40 points, while Tottenham are in 4th place on 54 points. This will be the 41st time the two teams have met. Swansea City were founded in 1912 as Swansea Town (they changed their name to Swansea City in 1969) and joined the Second Division of the Southern League for the 1913-14 season. After World War One, The Jacks became members of the SL First Division and joined the Football League in season 1920-21 when the Southern League was incorporated to form the Third Division of the Football League. The following season the division was re-named the Third Division South. The first meeting between Spurs and Swansea came in the Second Division in November 1928 at Vetch Field with the home side winning 4-0. The reverse fixture in March 1929 at White Hart Lane ended in a 1-1 draw. The clubs met for a further eight seasons in Division Two between seasons 1930-31 and 1938-39 with 10 wins for Spurs, 2 wins for Swansea and 4 matches drawn. During the Second World War, the clubs played two games in the Football League South with a win each. The clubs played for two more seasons in Division Two after WW2 with three wins for Spurs and one for Swansea. Spurs and Swansea have played five games in the Football League Cup, the first of which came in the second round in September 1970 with Tottenham winning 3-0 at the Lane with goals from Steve Perryman, Martin Peters and Roger Morgan. Eight years later, Swansea drew with Spurs 2-2 at Vetch Field in the second round first leg and won 3-1 at White Hart Lane. The most recent League Cup meetings came in the second round in 1991 with Swansea winning 1-0 at home in the first leg and Spurs winning 5-1 at White Hart Lane with goals from Paul Stewart, Vinnie Samways, Gary Lineker, Paul Allen and an own goal. Swansea City won promotion to the Top Flight of English Football for the first time in season 1981-82 and were league leaders at one stage before finishing in 6th position. The match at Vetch Field in September 1981 resulted in a 2-1 win for The Swans with Glenn Hoddle scoring for Spurs, while the return match at the Lane in May 1982 was won 2-1 by Spurs with Gary Brooke scoring both goals. A similar set of results came in Swansea's second season in Division One with a 2-0 home win in Swansea and a 1-0 home win in Tottenham. The two clubs came in a friendly played in Swansea in November 1992, which resulted in a 3-3 draw. Tottenham Hotspur and Swansea City have never met in the FA Cup. Swansea became the first Welsh club to play in the Premier League by winning the play-off against Reading at Wembley 4-2 thanks mainly to a Scott Sinclair hat-trick. The fixture at the Liberty Stadium in December 2011 finished in a 1-1 draw with Spurs going ahead just before half-time through Rafael van der Vaart but Swansea salvaged a point with a late equaliser from Scott Sinclair. Rafael van der Vaart put Spurs 1-0 up at halftime in the match at White Hart Lane in April 2012 with a 19th minute goal. Sigurdsson equalised for Swansea in the 59th minute but a brace from Emmanuel Adebayor secured the three points for Spurs. During the summer Tottenham Hotspur signed Icelandic midfielder Gylfi Sigurdsson from 1899 Hoffenheim but who had been on loan at Swansea City for the 2011-12 season. The game at White Hart Lane in December 2012 was won by a Jan Vertonghen goal scored in the 75th minute. Swansea won the first major trophy in their history in February 2013 when they beat Bradford City in the Football League Cup Final 5-0. Overall, Spurs have won 22, Swansea have won 10 and 8 of the 40 matches played so far between the two clubs have been drawn. please log in to view this image Full History of Tottenham Hotspur v Swansea City 1928-2013 please log in to view this image They Played for Spurs & Swansea.... Terry Boyle Derek Brazil Ivor Brown Ron Burgess (also Swansea coach & manager) Steven Caulker Willie Davies Gerry Francis (Swansea player, Spurs manager) Roger Gibbins Mark Gower Charlie Handley Percy Hooper Jack Illingworth Cliff Jones Ernie Jones Mark Kendall Derek King Doug Livermore (Swansea coach, Spurs asst. manager) Terry Medwin (Spurs player, Swansea asst. manager) Joe Meek Paul Price Wayne Routledge Gylfi Sigurdsson Micky Stead Arthur Willis (Spurs player, Swansea coach) Alan Woods please log in to view this image Tottenham Hotspur Premier League Player's Squad Numbers 1993-94 to 2012-13 Swansea City Premier League Player's Squad Numbers 2011-12 to 2012-13 please log in to view this image please log in to view this image
I think the Swans will want a response after getting beaten by us at the Liberty. They are usually pretty good at home and play some exciting football. Their game could suit Spurs though as you seem to get most of your success playing on the counter.
A Routledge hat-trick no doubt! in keeping with the law that all players we sell must score against us!
Ivor Allchurch there most famous son? Great player. Sir Matt Busby – "Ivor never needed a number on his back for identification. His polish, his class could not be missed. He vies with the greatest of all time, yet he has a modesty that becomes him" Bobby Moore:"One of the best inside-forwards I have ever played against"
...and this quote was posted 2 minutes before the one above on a thread that was last posted on 2 weeks ago. Why is this WUM still allowed to post on our board?! Constantly recycling the same dismal (two faced) patter like a broken record. It's muppets like him that put me off posting on here often, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
What a Monday morning thread! I thought the saying goes "Don't kick a man when he's down"? A rise comes after a fall? Plenty more fish to fry? When you fall off a horse, get right back on? Nope, I can't do it. A **** Monday morning and I can't be thinking positively about our next game. Of course I'm jesting THFC6061, great thread as always. Stick me down for a tenner on Swansea.
This is the big test for AVB now, we've won games in the past without playing well but it's not something we can or should rely on and after losing to Liverpool when we played really quite well and then lost again yesterday when we were dreadful but still had the chance to snatch a point. I hope AVB is noting the lack of width we've had in our last 3 matches and that using the fullbacks to provide it only leaves us exposed at the back. It's a sad state of affairs when Caulker, Vertonghen and Carroll were pretty much the only ones to make surging runs forward with the ball. No more letting Bale loose to play where he wants, get him on the wing against Swansea, let he and Lennon get at their defence and get Ade/Defoe to practice attacking the near post every minute he's out on the training pitch, it was an effective tactic last season and surely has a place for us this season too. Lloris Walker, Dawson, Vertonghen, Benny Dembele, Parker Lennon, Holtby, Bale Defoe I don't think Swansea will want to sit back as much as they did at WHL which should suit us. Maybe I'm just being blindly optimistic but I see Swansea away in a rare Saturday 3pm ko as an excellent chance for us to bounce back and prove that we're still on track. It's crucial we stay ahead of Arsenal until their game in hand against Everton's played we've got a great chance and to help give us the best chance I hope we sack off the Europa League, give the likes of Livermore, Carroll and Naughton these games and if we get through then great but if we don't I won't care as long as we've given ourselves the best possible chance to get in the top 4, that's the most important thing for us if we're to progress in future seasons.
As much as it goes against the grain of THFC traditions, the stark reality is that A could well compromise B...and B is unthinkable!
Exactly, it's a sad truth and one that I hope AVB recognises. If winning the Europa League even brought in half of what the CL did I'd be happy for us to go all out to win it but it doesn't and without the boost of CL football we will start to lose our best players making it harder and harder for us to progress.
Sky would need to back the EL, not sure why they haven't seeing as their in bed with UEFA, the money from independant TV co.s is just **** in comparison. The disparity between the two is staggering, if it was say half, it would perhaps generate more interest. Atletico Madrid have won the thing 2 of the last 3, yet have money issues.
You should never kick a man when he;s down. ...not when you can do this instead [video=youtube_share;vqzUmJmWRYw]http://youtu.be/vqzUmJmWRYw[/video]
I'm optimistic Spurs will avoid a total collapse simply because it would spare us a certain amount of pain. It's always worse to go through the stages of grief slowly, with a certain amount of backtracking. It's times like these I'm glad I cut my teeth as a fan with the Chicago (no trophies in 104 years and counting) Cubs. I can still be disappointed, but I can never be surprised. On a lighter note (albeit just slightly off-topic) the good old US of A got knocked out of the World Baseball Classic by Puerto Rico, which is the equivalent of England getting eliminated from the World Cup by Jersey. Even more ludicrously, the Netherlands are still alive, and will play the semifinal tonight against the Dominican Republic. Most of the Netherlands' good players come from the islands of Curacao (population 140,000) and Aruba (100,000).
Agree with the basis of your line up, as the key here is balance, not trying to put all focus on Bale, who is actually average through the middle if you look at his overall performances, take away his wonder goals and he is fairly average in terms of movement and the positions he takes up, but his goals have been over shadowing this. He needs to revert back to the left and swap positions as the game progress. But, I've been saying this all year, even before the season started, our most creative midfielder and best passer of the ball at the club, is Tom Carroll, and he is ideal for this game. One of his qualities is he makes time and space for himself (so he doesn't get bullied off the ball) yet when he has the ball, is always looking to create, play a forward pass, or keep possession, we should be using him more. Holtby aside from his initial impact (as a sub) if we're honest has looked average, not that means he's an average player as I believe he will come good in the end, but as we're at the stage of the season which will define our season, we need players that are going to perform, so I would leave Holtby on the bench for now.
