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Argyle v fleetwood saturday.

Discussion in 'Plymouth' started by lyndhurstgreen, Mar 14, 2013.

  1. lyndhurstgreen

    lyndhurstgreen Active Member

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    Apart from being an obviously vital match for Argyle on Saturday it is also their annual match in support of the Armed Forces.

    There will be representatives in attendance from the ROYAL NAVY, ROYAL AIR FORCE, ROYAL MARINES AND BRITISH ARMY and pre-match entertainment starting at 2.15 pm including a Military Band, Military Children's choir and local Cadet unit parade of standards, and the officials will be serving members of the RAF and ARMY who are also on the football league list. At half time there will be a sea cadet 'field gun' competition.

    A repeat of the deal through the local paper should entice you to bring the children, so come along and support the Armed Forces and the Greens, as more now than ever,

    YOUR TEAM AND COUNTRY NEED YOU!!
     
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  2. sensiblegreeny

    sensiblegreeny Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I applaud the cause lyndhurst and so would most people but I don't think thousands will be tempted even with some entertainment thrown in. As the cause looks more and more lost I think the numbers will dwindle and this rally to arms call in the local press is going to do nothing to make people come.

    The support for Argyle has held up remarkably well considering the football on offer and the plummet downwards. The dawn of a new era with Brent the saviour riding in and so on made a difference at the outset and people have given it a good go rather than walk away before. They won't keep doing this and why should they. All they have seen is poor quality football and even poorer quality management from the Boardroom down and a season long struggle with Argyle barely still breathing. There comes a time to allow the thing to die gently rather than keep poking it with a big stick just to be humane. I would not be surprised to see no more than 5000 with the exception being Exeter of course. I wouldn't blame people one bit.
     
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  3. lyndhurstgreen

    lyndhurstgreen Active Member

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    I know, carp weather, rugby on the box, very little incentive for people to turn up, but here's hoping.....Like to think there will be a final push tomorrow and 6500+ will turn out. Fail to win tomorrow and I guess that will be it in terms of encouraging anyone to pay to watch the death throws, but hopefully we will still be in with a chance for the remaining games.
     
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  4. sensiblegreeny

    sensiblegreeny Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    As I said lyndhurst I don't argue with the cause and indeed don't with the sentiments you express either. Nobody would want Argyle to escape again more than me I promise you. The problem is that every match is crucial now not just the next one or the one after. I just fear that even if the results do raly they won't be able to keep it up enough now. I so don't want to be right in this though.
     
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  5. Greenarmyjoe

    Greenarmyjoe Well-Known Member

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    Have faith Sensible.. we will be ok.. JUST!!! hope i am not to wrong... had a bad week with the horses ... at cheltenham .. so a win is a must tomorrow,,, i need a winner soon!! Hope your well.Keep your head up..
     
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  6. sensiblegreeny

    sensiblegreeny Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Yep, not too bad joe thanks. The only advice on horses I hand out these days is keep your money and don't give it to the fat bookie. Used to have a flutter or two once upon a time but gave it up when the penny dropped. For every reasonable win you get you pay for it at least twice over in the long run. Places like Cheltenham are even harder to find winners. Bookies always get their money back.
     
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  7. mexijan

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    come on you greens
     
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  8. Greenarmyjoe

    Greenarmyjoe Well-Known Member

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    Yep i agree sensible we all know the bookies are the winers. well will be off to the point to point on sunday.. luck may change.. i think not.. Its enjoyable tho..Yep cheltenham was a bit hard to pick a decent winner..

    Hope fully we get a win today... i may have a few quid on that..2-1 to the greens
     
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  9. Plymborn

    Plymborn Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Don't do it joe......you'll put the kibosh on them if you do.
     
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  10. hp_bedoboy

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    Well done Joe!.....a much needed win and looked like a good game on text...<cheers>
     
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  11. sensiblegreeny

    sensiblegreeny Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Ok here we go then with this weeks opinion.

    From kick off it was a bit poor by both sides. Parkin made his game plan clear virtually from the start. Kick Branston as ften as possible and failing that stick an elbow in his head somewhere. The Ref did nothing despite it being plain to see and the lino did his usual which was nothing whatsoever with his flag. Neither side produced much in the way of football. After nothing much happening and the Ref doing his best to deny Argyle any decisions at all he finally gave one our way and it was a penalty. Banton wanted it but I think a message came from the bench which said gie it to Wotton. Cue normal service. He burried it right down the middle in a flash back to the old days. Never in doubt and 1 - 0. Banton doubled the score with a very well taken goal. The play had again been up and down with nobody shinning but he took it very well and it wasn't really against any run of play. Nobody was playing particularly well but nobody was playing badly either. Apart from Bryant who was hardly noticeable on the pitch at all. Not playing badly but not playing at all as far as I could see. He is not a wide player and I'm told he is normally a full back. Why Bahsera was full back and him the midfielder I don't know.

    Second half and it was much of the same for the first part of it. Then Argyle started to sit back and soak it up. Disasterous decision if indeed it was a decision. I think it is more a mindset where they want to try to protect what they have. Problem is they have done this so many times they should know it isn't what they should do. Sure enough eventually they conceeded and suddenly from comfortable it was squeeky bum time once again. Once they get into this mindset they seem almost unable to get out of it again. Why not go for the 3rd? After a period of defending where they didn't actually look that troubled Fleetwood had a player sent off. My opinion was that it was a slight foul on Cowan-Hall which he helped to buy if you know what I mean. A booking though was a bit harsh. If anyone should have walked in this game it was Parkin not the one who did. After that it didn't look too bad. Chadwick did his best up front and caused a few problems for the defender to keep them honest once he had come on. He had replaced Reid whose body language says a lot. He looks so devoid of confidence despite the shift he puts in. Nothing seems to go right for him. Final whistle went and it was a decent deserved 3 points for a change.

    Couple of observations. Already said about Reid. Banton is a mystery to me. He does absolutely nothing to get the ball or chase anyone or close anyone down. However, when he gets the ball anywhere near the goal he seems to come alive. A right greedy git who probably only ever passes it around there if he absolutely has to. But, he scores goals and is the only one who looks likely to. Not my kind of player to be honest but he produces which is all you want as a supporter and manager. Man of the Match once again was Cole. He still bugs me when he stays on his line but his shot stopping once again was outstanding. He stopped on reminiscent of Gordan Banks for those old enough to remember his stop against Pele. He had no right to keep it out but he did.
     
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  12. lyndhurstgreen

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    I watched the match from the opposite side of the ground due to the Armed forces event and curiously I agree with much that sensible has reported. Despite the several clear cut chances that Fleetwood had, I always thought we had enough after going two up to hang on. Cole was outstanding again and Reid poor. I thought it was a definite second yellow and Parkin should also have been sent off and all in all the ref had a decent game. 6700 in the crowd which was good considering 'carp weather, rugby on the box, very little incentive for people to turn up'. The atmosphere was great in the second half and hopefully a bumper crowd next time. Perm any two from the bottom six to go down but I reckon we have a better than even chance of staying up.
     
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  13. sensiblegreeny

    sensiblegreeny Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I agree that we didn't look like losing this one lyndhurst but you use the expression "to hang on". Point is we should not have been hanging on at all. We were doing well enough without sitting back not to just hang on this time. Hanging on has cost us previously. One thing jumps out at me with Argyle which is even when they go in front they seem almost not to believe they can win it. Had they continued to play as they did before 2 - 0 and 30 minutes to go then they might have gone on to score another one. They don't seem to be confident enough though. Seems harsh to be critical when they have won I know but you wonder if better sides than Fleetwood would not have equalised or gone on to win in the end. We have seen this too often this season and they should learn that they are as good as other teams if not better so this doesn't keep happening.
     
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  14. mexijan

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    Good call Joe enjoy your winnings. 4 from 6 in those 2 games was what was needed although I was not convinced we would get them. Going to go to the wire this year and I think more than 46pts will be needed. Still they have found a bit of fight and Coles form with Banton scoring like he is at least gives us a shout of staying up. I must admit I had given up hope a few games ago. If we can get another forward in then all the better.
     
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    sensiblegreeny Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Can't see anyone else coming in now mexijan so we have who and what we have for the duration. Banton infuriates me when he just stands there and doesn't challenge. He also seems to bottle it when it comes to a challenge also. But he scores. As said to me when I was talking about this to mates after the game, if you were Sheridan and it was a choice between him and another forward for the one position left who would you pick? It's a simple one really it would be Banton all day long but I would still dislike him for the faults.
     
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  16. Plymborn

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    Sheridan says he is looking for a striker and reckoned this game was too soon to get one.
     
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  17. Greenarmyjoe

    Greenarmyjoe Well-Known Member

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    Well a good result and i had a result also.. makes this week a bit better after cheltenham!!

    I think we will survive JUST!!!
     
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  18. sensiblegreeny

    sensiblegreeny Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    At the moment it is in our own hands to get away with it. If you have to rely on the results of others then it becomes dodgy in the extreme. I'm still not that confident because every time we have put a few results on the board we have then gone and blown it in the next few. We have had enough chances to not be in this position before now. I absolutely refuse to get carried away knowing I could be let down again so if I stick with the pessimistic mindset then I won't be so disappointed if or when it happens. If it happened not to happen then I might be even more euphoric.
     
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  19. mexijan

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    We have had a few "hard working" strikers recently Sensible and I will take a scorer any day of the week over them although my lad said the same Banton is bloody useless bar the goals but in fairness that is what he is paid to do!! Mr Holloway is slowly rising in my estimations very nice loan so far I wonder if he has another goal machine he could let us have until the end of the season. Sounds like another Tommy T to me, lost count of the number of times I was moaning about Tynans work rate when he would stick it in the net to shut me up<laugh> Still think we need to find another 10 points to be safe could be a very nervy last game of the season for a few teams. It is a crazy league this year wit some odd results lets hope they go in our favour.
     
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    notDistantGreen Well-Known Member

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    Whatever the quality & the performance, a decent & much needed result. Results breed confidence, so let's hope it's upwards & onwards.

    They worked their socks off apparently Plymborn, according to our new manager.
     
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