I still feel that too often threads degenerate into personal slanging matches which quite frankly, become very boring very quickly. My interest here is to discuss Norwich City football and I would like to see more of that, less slanging. I don't object to other threads on other subjects (like music or jokes) because I tend to skip them to look for discussion of football. Too often, if someone expresses a different view on football, the response is to slang rather than discuss and that tends to become negative and end debate. There are a lot of different views out there, let's allow them to be discussed.
There are really only three things I really don't like from other posters and none of them I would consider worthy of being banned. Slaphead gestures because its to easy and offers no argument or real response Blatant and direct name calling i.e. "idiot" as soon as anyone starts to lose an argument, (this is different to the putting down of someones opinion or ideas) People telling fellow supporters to support other clubs because they disagree with them. If I'd called someone a **** I'd fully expect and accept a ban of some description because I can understand its not on. Having said that I personally wouldn't ban anyone for it . I prefer these things remain on view for others to see and judge for themselves. I can't see any point in closing threads or deleting posts.
Ever since I came on this site a certain person has targeted me for such abuse, being called a ignorant ****** who knows **** all about football, was used on more than 1 occasion. Also I was called the worst supporter in the history of Norwich City and told to go and support someone else. No moderation was actioned so I took matters into my own hands and retaliated in kind, I was then warned that because of my actions the thread was in danger of being closed down! I also wrote to the person involved to try to smooth over the angst and try to explain my thoughts and feelings towards my club, no acknowledgement or reply was received. So now after 2 years you're asking for advice when the problem has been there all along and was chosen to be avoided!!!!! The rules were also there and still are so why haven't you used them before? In my humble opinion they don't need changing just enforcing in a fair and level way! Sorry that's not what you want to hear, but it's the way I see things!
Swearing: I'm not bothered by it. Basic Standards/'Banter': I have crossed the line in the past with this but I try to be careful these days however people need to learn to be thick skinned and less sensitive on here about things. I'd hate this site to become a virtual Nanny State and I don't want a group of fellow posters taking the moral high ground when they take a dislike to someone's idea of banter. WUMs: We've dealt with them for long enough. Pictures/Videos: NSFW is a good one but more of common courtesy but some workplaces have militant web usage rules. Just a word of warning involving using the web at work for a colleagues Birthday we photoshopped her face onto various pictures to put around the office, the one which I done involved Britney Spears when she dressed up as a schoolgirl, using google images as my guide I managed to find the very picture clicked it, only to open a complete and utter ****storm! I had a dialler appear on my desk top along with over 100 windows in which three opened up every second, with various titles such as 'Amsterdam Whores''**** buddies''Asian Delight''Ebony on Ivory''Swedish Maidens''Spring Break Girls On Heat' every window I shut down another 50 would appear! Luckily I had a mate in IT who removed them all needless to say my career flashed before my very eyes! Insults: I'll admit I've been no angel in the past when dishing out these but more with fans of other clubs rather then our own, I try to respect all our fans on here there is a couple a dislike but I wouldn't dream of calling them a Berkshire Hunt. We all support the same club we all want the club to do well just we each see it differently. Locking Threads: Keep them going unless it's gone beyond the realms of order like insults flying left right and centre. Moderation Policy: You need to be a human version of Switzerland when dealing with people and it's a tough job. I know you try to be fair but there has been occasions when certain people have taken their condescending nature and brand of self righteousness to the extreme, when they have been fairly challenged by other posters it's like there has been personal attack and lots of people love to get on their high horse when it happens, I'd like to see you support the diverse set of opinions we have on this forum.
You can have all the rules you want, but it doesn't mean anything unless people follow them. It's up to us to behave well towards each other. My feeling is the minimum rules possible.
Evening all, a guest appearance. I have always been reasonably OK with how things have been policed on here, although understand how some may not see it that way. Out of order swearing is not acceptable but again some are thick skinned about it. The one thing I cannot stand and the reason why I do not post is the lack by a couple of posters to simply agree to disagree with your view. Ths is a forum for debate not an arena to slap down people who say are not happy with how the team are playing, the lack of mangers tactics or whatever. I still respect their views despite not agreeing but they persist with an attacking approach. I personally feel that the recent pouring out of emotions is directly linked to how the team is performing in the quest for Premiership safety. Being in this league and tapping in to the pot of gold is all that matters at the cost of seeing a decent game of football. We are all anxious about survival but instead of getting their by creative, incisive play and creating chances, we are spluttering to safety (and not convinced we will do that) by a defensive minded un creative type of football. People are comparing this season to when we dropped like a stone in 94/95. I do not agree, this is more like the Roeder era where we had a 13 game unbeaten run and just stayed up. It just put of the enevitable the following season. The formation is not the problem it is the lack of quality in most areas combined with the managers seeming ack f ability to adapt and change during the game. I am not saying Hughton should go ATM but will see what his own team will bring next season, but at the moment you could have Van Persie paying for us and he would hardly score any! Sorry got onto football matters!
Evening all, a guest appearance. I have always been reasonably OK with how things have been policed on here, although understand how some may not see it that way. Out of order swearing is not acceptable but again some are thick skinned about it. The one thing I cannot stand and the reason why I do not post is the lack by a couple of posters to simply agree to disagree with your view. This is a forum for debate not an arena to slap down people who say are not happy with how the team are playing, the lack of mangers tactics or whatever. I still respect their views despite not agreeing but they persist with an attacking approach. I personally feel that the recent pouring out of emotions is directly linked to how the team is performing in the quest for Premiership safety. Being in this league and tapping in to the pot of gold is all that matters at the cost of seeing a decent game of football. We are all anxious about survival but instead of getting there by creative, incisive play and creating chances, we are spluttering to safety (and not convinced we will do that) by playing a defensive minded, un creative type of football. People are comparing this season to when we dropped like a stone in 94/95. I do not agree, this is more like the Roeder era where we had a 13 game unbeaten run and just stayed up. It just put off the enevitable the following season ( were Hughton and Roeder together at Toon?) The formation is not the problem it is the lack of quality in most areas combined with the managers seeming lack of ability to adapt and change during the game. I am not saying Hughton should go ATM but will see what his own team will bring next season, but at the moment you could have Van Persie paying for us and he would hardly score any! Sorry got onto football matters!
At the risk of sounding sycophantic, I also want to say that the mods generally do a very good job on here. A light touch, and I appreciate that.
Could the problem be that you have got too many rules? the more rules, the more likely somebody is going to shout bias against the mods when it all kicks off. and a quiet word pm style would and should be enough to sort it. my view is, if you are grown up enough to come on a forum like this, you are grown up enough to take a bit of flak? and also you should be grown up enough to know when to leave it.
A lot of !if's" and "should's" there Guru! It hasn't worked so far, but maybe your highlighting the fact may bring everyone into line!
Over moderation can kill a forum!! Ive seen it happen before. Just let things flow and let people fight their own battles. If your easily offended then harden up or move on. Personally i love reading a good bit of banter and although i rarely contribute to discussions on here, (abit of a forum stalker) i would hate to see things on here stiffled by worrying to much about people getting offended. Arguements are arguements, you will find them in every walk of life, as long as people are not going out of their way to be offensive then i dont see the problem.
We (the mods) have had a suggestion made to us that perhaps having a stickied "Uncut Vent Thread" for people to let off steam on might help keep the focus on football elsewhere. What do people think of this? It'd be completely unmoderated (short of illegal content), and a place for people to rage about each other, or the world at large, with no interference from us. As a second use for it, if we were to implement this, it could be used to dump off-topic arguments in too, so people can continue to shout if they want, but it shouldn't disrupt the original thread any longer. WUM threads could also be merged with it if people want to take pot-shots at them (although I still maintain ignoring them is the best policy!). Any opinions on this?
Care to elaborate carrabuh? The only argument I can think of is from someone who wants to hijack every thread!
To be honest any new ideas I think are far more likely to spoil what is on here. Apart from maybe a couple I don't think anyone has been particularly offended or had their noses put out of joint. You read back through peoples comments and nobody's demanding or requesting any changes or threatening to leave if its kept the same. Somebody mentioned how mild mannered our board is compared with others and they are correct, the Leeds board can have plenty of genuinely nasty people at times with name calling etc a common theme.
Having been involved with forums in the past that have"benefitted" from no rules and/or little or no moderation, I'd be sad to see this board go down the same path. Anyone in doubt, go and look at the standard of the General Discussion" part of this very site.
I don't understand what you're saying Dave. Can you re-phrase and I'll elaborate, are you saying I'm the only argument for this idea? Incidently are other major contributors considered to be hijackers, you comment on here alot more than me. I like you Dave, but your becoming a bit of a pain in the arse with these interventions on behalf of over reactive members of your buddies club. If you don't want me on here then just kick me off.
carrabuh, believe it or not I like you too, you make an awful lot of good points, you also, at times, make some outrageous suggestions, but you can always back up your reasoning with some sound arguments, which I don't always agree with, but I accept your right to hold them! When I asked you to elaborate, you had said that it was daftest idea without giving your reason, I meant the only thing that I could see against the idea was if somebody wanted to argue on every thread, rather than be locked away in an argument room, I wasn't insinuating that is what you meant, I was genuinely surprised at you making a bald statement and wanted to know YOUR reason(s)
