Let's be honest, there are a number of players who are arrogant, conceited, disdainful, petulant etc and who, frankly, you wouldn't piss on if they were on fire. We have a few, but if they put in a shift and contribute to us staying up will be cheered through gritted teeth by many. Sadly, it's the nature of today's game...
Harry said just after the story broke that is was an AGENT and that none of the players had done anything wrong. We don't know the truth of it and it's pointless speculating. However, following Harry's comments about Taarabt's "apparent" injury, it does appear that that's it for him. I knew there was something up at the Man Utd game. Besides playing badly, which can happen to anyone, Adel was back to his old, sulky self with terrible body language. Now, whether you rate him or not, that is something we all should be able to agree that he'd cut out. I agree with Silent Bob's comments......infuriating at times, but I love watching him when I'm there. It seems it's time for him to move on and I can only hope that he finds a way to mature and stop listening to bad advice. I'll always be grateful for the magical moments me and my two lads witnessed from Adel.
He's injured, simple as that. Even playing better now he walks into the squad. Some people, for no reason whatsoever, are desperate for him to fail.
With the exception of 'Silent Bob's' last comment ( for me anyway )..................... of all the things people have said about Adel, these comments simply say it all. Nothing more to say except that while he still is a QPR player, I will support him, cheer him and continue to put sh_it on him .............. whichever is the greater.
This. Amazing all the speculation and conclusions people reach from a statement that he was injured, no more than that!
This is what Harold was quoted as saying in the Times (can't link to the app) "Taarabt wasn't fit suddenly, so I picked people who were fit and wanted to play and off we go. He's got a little bit of a thigh strain or something. If you're building a football team you know the people you want and those you don't want around you because they'll let you down. I know exactly who they are." Draw your own conclusions. One of mine is that Harold is a journalist's dream. Another Jock is that you don't have to read much between the lines to see something more than a simple statement that he was injured. As simple statement would be 'Taarabt has a thigh strain". All the other words are calculated to cast doubt on the extent of the injury, his willingness to play and his reliability. Frankly, looks like one of Harold's games to me, and as long as we keep winning I don't care if Adel is in the team, on the bench, in the squad or on the planet Venus. Pretty clear to anyone who knows anything about football that JS Park is a much better player any way - look at his medals and we win when he's playing.
We didn't know the truth about Bosingwa at the time either yet we speculated quite a bit! He's got previous in this kind of area so that must count for something, in the same way Barton had previous in another area before he did the same whilst playing for us. The rest of your post is fair and honest. The fact that you would say that shows how deep your head is buried in the sand. Just read in Stan's post above what the Manager said and stop trying to pull the wool over people's eyes just because you have a bias toward a particular player. Ridiculous statement. He was dropped precisely because he was playing sh*t. And what's happened since? We've won twice! Maybe some people always saw him as an over hyped player who was more of a hindrance than a help?
I don't give a damn what he says, but I love old 'arry. One of my favourite 'sayings' of his has to be "Well, me lud, I'm a football manager, I mean, wadda I know about Monaco bank accounts?" Well, it went something like that. He is priceless, a one-off. But then I'm totally biased, being a (southwest) Londoner, born, bred, and raised, and an R's fan for more years than I would care to admit! Hope we make it out of this mess, with or without Adel. Harry has given us a chance, let's take it.
As usual, I wouldn't agree with any of your points Matt but also, as usual, your argument is extremely well put and thought out. So apologies for only focusing on one small section of it because overall, its a very worthy piece you've knitted together there mate. Nevertheless, I don't get this notion that we have to "actually try to understand the man". It doesn't take much trying, its easy enough. I understand him plenty and here it is: He's a filthy rich youngster who doesn't know how good he has it and who thinks he's far better than what he actually is. His ego and childishness has meant that he has disgraced the Club in the past and it looks like he's doing so again, right in the midst of a relegation battle for our very survival in the Premier League. There is an etiquette and a way to conduct yourself both on and off the field when you're representing our Club but he falls way short of that. Bosingwa is another punk who has scant regard for the Club and its supporters. Joey Barton was another. A little harsh? No doubt you will think so Matt and perhaps you'd be right mate but its just how I feel about the guy. I'll be honest in admitting that I've never liked him and I never will. The silence on this Board all week about this issue, even though it has been reported in a number of newspapers, is quite revealing although not entirely unexpected.
Just to wake the silent then...... How has Adel "disgraced the Club"! He more than any other player the last nearly 3 seasons now has been the shining light at the Club. He more than anyone else at our place has produced magical moments of football that have made most long time watchers of football jaws drop in absolute wonder. Still I suppose if you are a soccer lover that prefers to watch a Park skpiping about a park contributing next to nothing except ticket sales and blog hits in the beautiful warm countries of SE Asia, I do see where you coming from. As for Bos is he a Punk? His hair don't look spiky enough to me? If he does have scant regard for the Supporters, couldn't this be because the Supporters have scant regard for him - here's a bloke who for me has always played well for us, sometimes played top, top games, under Hughes as well not just Harry, but nevertheless got abuse after abuse because he should have tried harder or wouldn't sign autograghs!! What came first the chicken then the egg. or the supporters then the Bos?
I thought that post had got lost to all and sundry so thanks! You raise some interesting points there Swords. Why do we generalise footballers as being stupid and then berate them for acting with stupidity? Certainly, the smarter players don't seem to pull inane stunts unless it's either in the heat of the moment on the pitch (after being psyched up for the game) or when their intelligence gets called into question off it. Also, is there any sort of teaching of conduct that isn't just hidden in the small print of a contract (that the agents not the players read) or gets levelled at the players after misconduct (and so gets lost in the whole disciplinary drama). I've never heard of preemptive guidance in the same way that workers get health and safety thrust into their brains. Furthermore, there is a need need understand players - not mandatory but it does give a potential edge when trying to get the most out of individuals. How many times have you heard of players either needing a boot up their backside or an arm around the shoulder in order to get the most out of them. I get the feeling that you'd be better at the former and me at the latter and herein lies our regular but amicable disagreements.
Well that's fanciful in the extreme Ozzie. In fact, I do wonder whether we're talking about the same player at all. He has done very little in our two Prem seasons to deserve the platitudes he gets. If you keep saying a player is great then they're the standards you have to judge them by. I say he's very average so by those standards he's done okay. By your standards he's been very poor indeed. How has he disgraced the Club? Well rather than going back and nit-picking through his previous behaviour, lets just concentrate on this week. The Manager has clearly indicated (if you look at Stan's posts he has quoted him more than once but people don't seem to want to read it) that Taarabt more or less feigned an injury and doesn't want to play for "the team" as opposed to himself. Add to that the alleged - and I stress alleged - claims that he was the one who leaked stories to the press via his agent about the Dubai trip and it all adds up to something that, whilst in itself is not conclusive, nevertheless merits some consternation among the members of this Board which has been almost totally absent since this story broke. Can you imagine the outrage if Bosingwa was implicated in such a thing? As for Bosingwa and the fans getting on his back, you really need to wake up Ozzie mate. If he had of come in and given his all and not stormed out of the ground, the fans would have been behind him. You seem to have little regard for the supporters of the Club but I believe that the guys that go down there every fortnight are very consistent in backing the team as long as they give 100%. As for the autograph thing, that doesn't interest me. Sorry Matty but I just don't accept that bro. I'm not talking about health and safety. What I'm talking about is a code of conduct that is largely unwritten but which we all have to adhere to in our daily jobs. If I started acting the maggot in my job, shirking off and not doing it properly, I'd get sacked. I couldn't go to the boss and claim that my poor behaviour was because I'm just a bit thick and no-one explicitly told me not to behave badly. I'd have my P45 shoved in my face before I had a chance to finish the sentence. Besides, how come some players can behave in an acceptable manner whilst others can't? Perhaps it just comes down to the character of people and how you earn respect from people through your words and actions. Indeed but I've no doubt that Redknapp has tried that already. There comes a point when no amount of coaxing and cajoling will work and its time to cut your losses. Redknapp has seen through the hype that surrounds this lad and has rightly put him out in the cold.
Warnock and Hughes both dropped him and brought him back. You can assume has put him out in the cold but I reckon he'll be on the bench on Saturday and will be brought on if circumstance dictates.
Canât believe this is all still going on. His style of play offends the typical English Mike Basset mentality and any slight dip in form or hint of a possibility to interpret something in the press and the same old critics pile in to criticise him. How injured is he, who knowâs but judging for Arryâs use of Zamora he doesnât have much sympathy for players carrying knocks. Surely Adel has done more than enough to earn the respect of fans at the club to not have these ridiculous threads rumble on about him He has had a mild dip in form. Missed a penalty against Norwich having been our best player in the game to that point then confidence dropped thereafter a very poor game against Swansea and an anonymous game against United. Next up same old Mike Basset merchants come out of the woodwork saying I told you so. I remember getting in a row when we lost at Peterborough away a few years ago, Mick Harford didnât even pick him on the bench. Another typical old fashioned Mike Basset merchant said to me that Priskin was better because he put more effort in and we couldnât afford a player like Adel?! This is the same sort of fan that will quickly forget his match winning performance against Fulham, all round quality against Chelsea, the through ball to Remy at West Ham and that he was the best player on the pitch in the 0-0 with Man City. 2 bad games and then bang- I told you so⦠repeat same old rubbish The critics are the same people who sit quietlywhen Mackie runs straight down the line without looking up and then squaring it to the nearest defender, or ignores Derry misplacing a pass to an attacking midfielder but then Adel doesnât release the ball when they think he should and they start mouthing off To be honest we donât deserve him considering the fans we have. Youâd be foolish to think that we are going to need Adel back contributing as he has done regularly this season if we are to have any chance of staying up
If he shakes up his act and apologises for his behaviour then the Manager may consider him. And if he does, I'll be right behind him. It is unfortunate though that such a course of action has been necessary with this individual.
