Nick Clegg - two faced ****wit

Don`t put them in a Catholic school, that`s where the bum rape happens............

 

Indeed: Eton would be a much safer bet.

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Nice one, thanks.

That Thomas Ligotti book sounds absolutely magic. But if you were looking for an argument aganst the existence of the human race, Administrator, you should have come to me first: I would have presented it in an engaging, easy-to-read and thoroughly laddish manner, replete with a winning line in self-deprecation and a heart-warming inclusiveness that would make everyone feel able to join in. I imagine we would have marvelled at my ability to make difficult subject matter readable and enjoyable for the man in the street, to be honest. An opportunity missed.

Anyway, I suspect I would enthusisatically agree with everything in Ligotti’s book right up until the point I have children. I would then be presented with the difficult task of explaining to myself why my own children were somehow miraculously exempt from my low level contempt and why they deserved to survive and be taken seriously. More likely, however, is that my entire world view would collapse around me and would need urgent modification or rebuilding.

As for the boring stuff, I know what you mean. You have to be in the right sort of mood, I suppose, or simply treat these things as a thought exercise. There is no real escaping the fact, however, that many of these egg-headed philosophical types are very bad at imparting ideas (for all their relentlessness) and very bad at writing. It’s sometimes hard to avoid the suspicion that it would really please them to think that other people may find their ideas impenetrable – which is a crime against education – and that they revel in their own perceived intellectual magnificence. (If you’ve ever read a pamphlet distributed on the street by an earnest Marxist or far-left type, you may have already been familiar with this self-defeating, wholly unimpressive and, by definition, anti-intellectual trait. Come to think of it, arty types explaining their work and practice are often similarly afflicted by the need to spout self-bolstering jargon and impeccably fatuous bullshit.)

But I digress, sorry. Back to everything else later. (Taking the dogs to the beach now, as you may have guessed from experience. I've nothing else going on in my life, let's face it.)

 

Hmm. I know it’s merely a throwaway comment and at the risk of becoming embroiled in a stramash…..

…..being a Celtic supporter and hating Irish people seems perfectly compatible to me. I can’t see why being a Celtic supporter would disbar such a thing or make it any less likely? I can’t see why anyone would waste precious energy or time hating Irish people, right enough – or anyone much at all – but that’s another thing altogether.

In fact, maybe it’s even more likely that certain Celtic supporters will hate the Irish, given that their sole or predominant experience of Irishness may have been distorted, week in, week out, by being exposed to a brand (or strand) of Irishness that may give the appearance of fetishising war and war deeds (which is to say, violence), martyrdom and victimhood, whilst trampling indifferently over the sensibilities of others and simultaneously attempting the seeming trick of clinging to a fondly imagined moral superiority – which is based, as far as I have ever been able to tell, on precisely nothing?

It can hardly lay any claim whatsoever to being the prime or authentic voice of Irishness, true, but this fact may be somewhat lost in the bedlam, serving the unfortunate purpose of hardening opinions and sowing greater societal discord – and yes, possibly leading to (a self-defeating) hatred.

As a means of saying “We’re Irish, you’re going to listen to our stories (whether you like it or not), love us and feel our pain”, it is perhaps unique in its counterproductive ineffectiveness - unless you were minded to buy into this very particular way of thinking to begin with, of course, which is hardly an expression of cultural inclusiveness. But there we are.

Personally speaking, for all its terrible, terrible faults (and seemingly willful blindness to these faults), I love Ireland and, by grudging extension, the Irish (even you, darling Administrator) – which is why, amongst other things, I recently became an Irish citizen. If I wanted to find an example of the least appetising, most grimly self-fixated, mawkishly self-loving aspect of Irishness, however, I would struggle to find an immediately better example than Celtic Park - and the apparent mindset of a (possible) minority of supporters therein. To witness Irishness (and Irish politics) being reduced to this humiliating pastiche of grievance and lament is painful in the extreme. Ireland is so much better than that.

Bring back Stereotypist. If what you say is true, his demented hatred will serve as a useful cultural counterbalance against the weeping balladeers and will surely show the Scotch-Jocks in a favourable light.

Anyway, because I’ve become seriously distracted and spent far too long on this, I’ll just have to say “no worries” to everything else you said – it made for good, interesting reading. And thank you, of course, and sorry for going on. I’ll probably need to reserve the right, however, to question your judgment in giving tacit approval to a sectarian schooling system and raising your children as bigots.

(My wife went to one of these schools for about six years, Mickita, and I can barely step through the hall without tripping over needlessly sinister rosary beads and crosses and stuff – never minding the piles of heavy-going literature outlining the moral necessity of aligning oneself with Nazis and fascists and gruesome dictators at every available turn. If that’s what you want for your kids, though, fair enough. If they start hoarding despicable levels of wealth under their My Little Pony mattresses and do everything they can to avoid paying tax whilst showing a propensity for stealing great works of art, however, you’ll know the game is up. Just don’t come crying to me, okay?)

 

It`s not called bum rape if you agree beforehand, it`s called ***ging....The Catholics sneak up in the dark.

 

If you take the faith teaching out of faith schools then they're just... schools.
Don't think anyone has a problem with those.

 

RB, you're arguing with a complete ******.

Save yourself the bother.

 

No. No sure where you got that idea from, to be honest.

 

Pretty simple to follow, A faith school that doesn`t teach a particular faith is just called a school. This does not make all schools faith schools, are you being intentionally dim Rebel?

 

We had GCSE RE ,the teacher and kids knew it was completely pointless, i think the Rugby coach taught the class . I don`t even remember having any coursework ,but that was 23 years ago....

 

Dank U, Miguel. (Trying my hand at Dutch.)

I can’t think what to say in response to the George Orwell observation, except for “interesting”. (I’m narrowing my eyes and saying it in a drawn out way, however, whilst stroking my long grey beard, if that helps.) On the surface, it seems fairly insightful, but I simply don’t know enough about the world to be certain it stands up to further scrutiny.

I think that’s probably true, though, about people needing to forcibly project their identities if they feel them to be under threat. I’m not entirely sure that this is related, but I’d estimate the intensity (or otherwise) of my Scottish nationalism was diluted to the tune of roughly 50% just the moment we got devolution. It was also round about this time that I stopped caring for the Scottish national football team – although wasting my money following them to the World Cup in France played a significant role in my tantrummy disillusion. Either way, it just didn’t seem all that important anymore, and I suspect I had been using the team as a vehicle for something more than mere sport. (Which feels excruciatingly embarrassing, in retrospect.)

No, if my sources are to believed – and they are, I’ve read widely on this – they’ll be teaching them exorcisms and all sorts. I also don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say that the school canteens tend to garnish the sandwiches with wafer thin slices of Protestant. If that’s not bigotry, I don’t know what is. How much evidence do you actually need? Get a grip, ffs, you're just embarrassing yourself now.