As i said on the match thread, the very best managers - Jose and Sir Alex - wouldve 100% mentioned in his pre-match presser in the full view of all media how many penalties they've had and question why it is so much higher than the average? This would put pressure on a ref not to give one and you'd be amazed how much mindgames such as this work.
Because the reality is the goal line technology would just get dusty. It's rarely needed as it is and when it would be needed, currently the officials alone are at least as accurate, so with the addition of analysis do determine if the ball should have been there in the first place, it would be a bigger waste of money and resources than it is currently. You also seem to be mixing up 'experts' with pundits. With the odd exception. the pundits are there because they weren't good enough to earn a decent living from the game (or have pissed and gambled their income away) and still aren't good enough to manage or coach. Experts would be selected using a better criteria.
Completely agreed and it isn't just restricted to good managers either. Tony Pulis is a master at this. Always telling everyone how hard done to his team are and it makes the complete opposite become true. So how is this review panel going to affect the wrong decisions if they're only doing it after the event? Also where does this fact you keep stating come from, that the technology is less accurate than referees? I find it very hard to believe, the technology must be really simple in this day and age, I'd be surprised if something very similar isn't used extensively outside of sport with an almost perfect accuracy rate. Happy to be told I'm wrong on that but I just don't get where you've got that impression from. And finally, who would the experts be? Retired referees? People like Attwell, Mike Jones, etc. The people who think strikers should be offside when attacking a rebound from the 'keeper? I reckon there's only really me in the entire world who appreciates the purpose of the offside rule and realises it isn't just there to disallow goals for no reason, so it'd have to be me realistically.
Palace supporter here - I come in peace. I agree with the majority view of the pens. The first was dodgy, though you have seen them given; the second was a farce. As shown on SSN, it all happened so fast your defender never had a chance to get out of the way. That said, I thought we deserved to win. But Hull played a fair game and didn't deserve the two pens. But I hope you know why we dislike Steve Bruce after he walked out on Palace mid-season, when we were doing very well, to join Birmingham.
People, people, people. The two penalties. The first was a penalty - from the camera's position, you can't see the contact on Williams (not Moxey as Sky Sports had said), who was the best player on the pitch by a country mile. However, there was contact as you would have seen from the referee's angle. The second was very dodgy. A harsh decision from the assistant - the referee had nothing to do with that one being given. Calling us diving cheats is out of order. We win that many penalties by having wingers who can beat players for fun and get in the box as swiftly as they can. And it's rich saying we look for penalties when I believe it was your in-form Egyptian who attempted to win a penalty after being shielded off the ball by our defender until our keeper retrieved the ball. You have a good side. One of the strongest out of the teams I've seen both at Selhurst and away this season. We were just on our game and have the best home form in the division. I've no doubt you'll mount a serious challenge for second spot. I'm aware you have Watford, Cardiff and Boro to play. But all of these three games are winnable. We too have some seriously tough games coming up, especially at Brighton in a week and a half. I wish you luck and hope you get promoted if that means Brighton, Leicester, Boro or Cardiff don't - as long as we can nab one of the automatic positions!
Look, as good as some of your players are there is no denying that the way your players act and go down is no less than disgraceful. Even Murray collapses to the ground time after time, its wrong and those players should be ashamed.
But we're still a point above you and our wide men are also very skillful, yet we've had 2 penalties all season (and it's around that number every season). It isn't as simple as just 'we have good wingers' because there are other teams with good wingers. I didn't go last night but at our place Zaha and Bolasie spent the entire game falling over and the reports on last night from ym fellow tigers who were there suggest the same thing. It doesn't seem to be just about the penalties but about the whole game where the cleanest team in the league conceded a ridiculous number of free kicks. The fact that in the build-up to the game, we were all discussing how many penalties you would get makes it a farcical situation. As for Elmohamady or Gedo (not sure which one you meant), I haven't seen the incident but how can that be diving? In fact that's another thing I hate about football. If someone did that stupid holding-off thing for a throw-in it would be a foul but if you do it in your own box it's fine. I'm fed up of all these stupid refereeing discretions which just promote negative play. Why not promote good football? Anyway, thanks for the positive comments. It's obviously going to be a close one. Ourselves and Watford have been awapping 2nd place every week for about a month now and I'm sure it will continue.
I went last night and in the first half they were worse than they were at the KC and the ref gave it every single time. It was every player getting in on it as well last night not just Zaha and Bolasie.
I wasn't at the game last night admittedly, but until last night we were top of the fair play league having conceded the least fouls and least penalties in the championship. Even before half time we'd almost outdone our record for fouls in a whole match and evened our record for penalties conceded in the whole season, and we're not a dirty thuggish team at all, far from it. Most people will be going off previous experience when you came to the KC, and Zaha and Bolasie were hitting the deck so often even when there wasn't contact, it's easy to see why people would jump to the conclusion that you were diving all over the place again. It's a crying shame that second penalty was awarded, it ruined what could have been a great match, even if we may never have got anything from it anyway, at least we could have lost fairly. It's like that WC 2010 situation where Lampards goal wasn't given, and Germany stuck a couple more past us on the break when we were chasing the game and threw men forwards, that's what happened last night with a shocking non penalty, we wouldn't have been so open on the counter had we not been behind to the linesmans incompetence. Careful at Brighton, they tend to like throwing themselves on the deck at any given opportunity too
I read the Sky report earlier and saw this comment underneath "dm says March 5, 2013 11:52pm I was at the game and Palace deserved the victory although first goal (pen) was fortunate but just what Palace deserved. On that display Hull are not Permiership quality. Typical Bruce team trying to take out players and whinging a hell of a lot. Makes me laugh seeing all the comments from Hull fans thinking they are good enough. On that display not a chance." This is the most ridiculous statement I've ever seen. Going on the display at the KC, Palace haven't got a cat in hell's chance of gaining promotion, more like a review in the Guardian for a theatrical performance. Also "Typical Bruce team"... actually I think we're too honest if anything, and we could learn from Zaha and company in how to win stupid penalty decisions. As Peter Swan rightly said last night, overall we are a better team than them, they just know how to play at Selhurst Park. I still think City can clench 2nd with wins over Watford and Boro at home, if we beat Burnley on Monday; that's a BIG hurdle overcome. Keep the faith people!
Palace are a good team, we are a good team, if we'd won the game in the same manner as they did we would gladly accept the 3 points, there's no shame in losing to Palace at Selhurst Park, move on
Nice try, but Zaha is a shocking diver, he's a talented lad, but he's also cheat. He should fit right in at United, if they play Young and Zaha together, there won't be a single point in the game when both wingers are upright. The better team won last night, but it's galling to get beaten by players who think that falling over should be considered a talent. It isn't.
And when the fans condone this 'dropsy' syndrome, it's just asking for the game to be full of suarez's and n'gogs. What a **** game that would be.
I heard this on the FLS a few weeks back... "And the scorer is Glenn Murray... Glenn... MURRAYYY" So, so cringey...
