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The 2 Penalties!

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by McGregor HU5, Mar 5, 2013.

  1. McGregor HU5

    McGregor HU5 Well-Known Member

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    Just seen the highlights on SSN and that is a ****ing disgrace from the officials tonight! The first one, that flange Moxey just fell over and the second was a excellent block from Hobbs and his hand was on his body.

    I accept that Palace were better than us and deserved the victory, but these farcical refereeing displays need addressing asap.
     
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  2. BernsteinTiger

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    I may sound like a sore loser - but I still want to know how come they have had more penalties in one season than we have had in the last five.

    We play there, and the ref is falling over himself to blow the whistle. Palace has had 13, the average is five. Ourselves, Wednesday and Wolves have had 2.
     
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  3. PLT

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    You can't ever stop incorrect refereeing decisions but it's the same teams getting a helping hand every week that ****s me off, moreso than in other sports, a single moment can have such a massive influence on a game. The first goal in games like tonight is massive and to see them unfairly handed not one but two, free attempts at having that lead is just ****ing ridiculous.

    How can a team behind us in the league have got 7 times more penalties than us throughout the season?

    And equally, how can it be defended that we consistently get less penalties than almost every other team season after season. At what point does it start 'evening itself out'?
     
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  4. Murdoc

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    Give it a couple of centuries and it should be pretty even <ok>
     
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  5. Benjo

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    It's about the way a team plays and wether or not the attacker with the ball is the sort of player who will go down like a sack of spuds. Palace players run into the box more often from the wings rather than cross the ball... That being said you're just as likely to see a foul committed for a shirt pull etc. on the attacker waiting to head said cross so it's kind of bollocks really. Plus the figures are mental!

    You could even argue that teams like us don't 'try' for penalties often simply because we never get awarded them! Teams like Palace think "This is paying off dividends" and just get better at going down softly. Was it like that all ovr the pitch or were we just too agressive? Looking at the foul count you'd think we were Leeds tonight...
     
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  6. BernsteinTiger

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    That's exactly what I think. Earlier on I looked on the Transfermarkt website that seems to have all the stats, and like I say, to get their total, we need to include every season back to 09-10.

    I'm not saying Palace should lose points or anything - but the refs should have to account for this. In any other sport or industry, a statistic that goes against the average as much as that would face an inquiry.

    http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/championship/elfmeter/wettbewerb_GB2_2012_a.html

    This far into the season, that proves that things don't "balance out" - We've all played the same teams.

    Also interesting to note

    2012 - Southampton (10)
    2011 - Reading (13)
    2010 - Reading (12)

    That's the highest penalty total of the last three years. Palace have matched that with 10 games to play.
     
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  7. PLT

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    I'm pretty sure Palace had 12 before today meaning it's 14 now so they'll have beatn that record with 10 to spare.
     
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  8. BernsteinTiger

    BernsteinTiger Well-Known Member

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    There is definitely something dodgy there.
     
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  9. TigersFan

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    Because they dive all the time:(
     
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  10. Horsham_Tiger

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    Palace's game plan is quite simple: keep diving so that the ref gives loads of dodgy free kicks (and/or penalties) or the opposition has to back off.

    Brady had Zaha quiet until the avalanche of free kicks made our players back off.

    I used to have a soft spot for Palace, but I want this current team of cheats to lose the play-off final so they can be heartbroken.

    I HATE the stupid music and announcer at Selhurst Park. No need for cheerleaders and the "The scorer is Kevin Phillips...Kevin......" nonsense.

    The only good thing is my sat nav took me to a parking spot literally 1 minute walk from the away section on a route I'd never been on before.
     
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  11. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    I've just seen the penalties. Now I'm not claiming the result should've been any different - I wasn't there - but both are nothing short of a ****ing disgrace.
     
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  12. merchantman5

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    The whole game was a disgrace, dodgy penalties, dodgy yellow card for Meyler and everytime a City player went in for a tackle the ref was blowing for a free kick due to the cheating bastards that where Palace. You can not win against that sort of play.
     
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  13. bum_chinned_crab

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    Wonder where it has come from? I cant imagine it's the manager as he's never been known for it before.
     
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  14. Oregon Tiger

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    Apart from all the other teams that he has managed of course.
     
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  15. bum_chinned_crab

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    I take your point with DQPR but I never noticed or even heard it mentioned whilst at Plymuff, Lester or Cesspool.
     
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  16. CityCalv

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    I've never seen anything like that in my life, I was right behind the linesman and I have no clue what he saw, it was a ****ing disgrace, I'm disgusted.
     
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  17. GCTiger

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    We'd have more pens if Elmo and Brady got into the box more often..... but we don't dive so we're not going to get many more. But even when we have a good shout for a pen they get turned away (away at Blackpool springs to mind)
     
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  18. DMD

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    But surely the most important question is 'did the ball cross the line'? It doesn't matter how it got there, it crossed the line so it's a goal. <ok>

    I may have mentioned this before, but instead of farting about with goal line technology, a post match review by experts to look at ALL contencious incidents and to punish clear cheating or even just gamesmanship would be cheaper, quicker and far more effective.
     
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  19. Pennine Tiger

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    Totally agree.
     
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  20. PLT

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    That's true, but why does it need to be instead rather than as well as? No one has suggested that goal-line decisions are the only wrong ones.

    Also I think the standard of 'experts' is appalling even in people who see an incident several times on a replay. There are people in the media who regularly state that players are "Entitled to go down." As if it's a choice <doh> Yet they wonder why we have a problem with diving... And almost everyone in football seems to agree that you should be given offside if you were in an offside position 2 or 3 passes before you receive the ball, which I find ridiculous.
     
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