Bollocks to OTIB and the EE meeting will go ahead providing the fans want it.The club are very willing so let's not have that as an excuse already.
Come on BB you are avoiding the point being made. Has the nature of the stand [EE] already been decided? Will fans have any say so in structure? Are there boxes within the Eastend design? There is an opportunity for fans to decide the nature of design or there isn't.
??????? You are being asked how high a roof is and are there boxes in the stand and throwing a hissy going "shan't tell". What's the big secret?
So come on then Bristol Boy, give us a clue so we can believe your credibility because so far you've rubbished everyone else's comments. And you talk like you know the managers personally.
Think he is implying he is one of the fans parliament reps on the consultation working group or whatever it is called. He is representing fans, all of us. I cannot see what is wrong with answering the questions being put to him if he is. Surely that is what he is meant to be doing anyway. I think we are being told to wait till this fans parliament sorts out bits of the design for us. It then gets released and if we don't like it. No idea!!
Well from his first post I got the impression he wanted to make himself sound more important than he is! Plus he's friends with Red Robin.. Absolutely no credibility then.......
Can you first let me know who you consider to be fans? Are you suggesting that we poll the ST's or SC&T Members? Who? At the first meeting of the working party, ALL the ideas gathered from fans whether by post, personal caller, phone,e mail or forum were put forward.If you have anything new/different, why not contact Dave Llloyd and put your ideas forward? Because it doesn't make sense to have 13,000 people calling the Architects-Dave lloyd is our "conduit" to them.
Can you first let me know who you consider to be fans? Are you suggesting that we poll the ST's or SC&T Members? Who? At the first meeting of the working party, ALL the ideas gathered from fans, whether by post, personal caller, phone,e mail or forum were put forward.If you have anything new/different, why not contact Dave Llloyd and put your ideas forward? Because it doesn't make sense to have 13,000 people calling the Architects-Dave lloyd is our "conduit" to them.
Dear God! What part of "The Design hasn't been decided yet," don't you understand? What are you going to "make a decision" on, Fresh Air? The stadium won't be started until 2014/2015 so have some patience I want, I want, I want.........
"why not contact Dave Llloyd and put your ideas forward" Thats exactly what they were doing and you pretty much rubbished it?
In your view, which is jaundiced and I didn't.Common sense dictates you can't tunnel under AG due to planning and budgetary constraints. Someone Provides info-That's wrong or not believed. The club consults-That's wrong The club doesn't consult-That's wrong A rough idea is released-That's wrong The club forms a FP-That's wrong It advertises for members on the OS-That's wrong Not enough people apply-Still wrong The club have an AGM that anyone can attend-That's wrong and 85 people turn up out of 12,000 City Fans at AG The club doesn't have supporter groups with which it consults-That's wrong The club does have supporters groups with which it consults-That's wrong. So for you and the other moaners and groaners, why don't you do whatever you like because what ever happens you'll be against it on the basis that you're anti everything unless, of course, it's exactly what you want, which, by the way you haven't told us or the club AFAIK.
Because he is talking about identity and not thinking about what it really means. putting boxes in an end doesn't just change its feel it changes the identity as well and could muller things like atmosphere. Idea of safe standing in the corners is odd if there is a law change they should boss the middle like a real end. Point about acoustics is lop sided as well because if it is about identity and tradition you want to be getting close to what it is with a possible re-build. The low roof and side gives the stand in question part of its identity because of its feel. it is echoey and dark not like the bright and airy and very open stands elsewhere. The identity many lads in there like will be wrecked by what he is talking about. He is not talking about the same thing. Its not case of modernisation he is painting but total change.
