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Cheltenham - As if he is going to win!

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by NassauBoard, Feb 27, 2013.

  1. hawkeye

    hawkeye Well-Known Member

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    haha cheers. i think it must be from posting on general chat. lol.
     
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    My Tent or Yours and simonsig
     
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  3. DreverSpur

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    Simonsig is the biggest lay for me. Hasn't done enough over fences to merit his lofty position in my opinion. Reminds me of Noland in 2008. The only time Simonsig was really in a battle over hurdles was when he was beaten by Fingal Bay. Although 9 yr olds have a poor record in the Arkle I believe Overturn could be the bet of the festival.
     
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  4. The Story of the Hurricane

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    For me Simonsig is just 2short. It undoubtedly could be the next sprinter sacre, but surely overturns 2nd in last years champion hurdle offers the best piece of form in the race?? He has been quick and economical over his fences and while i'm not necessarily saying he will win, i would rather back other odds on shots than Simonsig. But if simonsig does have the engine we think he does then overturn might just set it up for him nicely. But has he jumped fences at the speed overturn will bring them along at?? if he does Sprinter may have a pretender to the throne next year!! At the prices tho i just can't have him, so if it runs, il have an ew nibble at arvika ligioneirre. Has potential to be a very good animal and hopefully should run into a place if he puts his last run behind him.
     
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  5. CaptainPops

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    i agree re Simonsig altho the obvious one for me that will be beat is dynaste !!!!
     
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  6. beeforsalmon

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    Nice thread just wish everyone would stop nominating My Tent or Yours as he is one of my two ante-post bets struck! Regards the Supreme being the death of the hotpot, yes it most certainly has been but law of averages tell me this has to change at some stage and this will be that year! MTOY will be pulling the proverbial cart at the last, AP will give him a nudge and the race will be over. Easy peasy!

    I nominate The New One in the Neptune. In my book he got put in his place fair and square the last day and I expect Pont to show him up big style and TNO's bubble will well and truly be popped for good.
     
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  7. stick

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    booooooooooooooooooo hissssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss booooooooooooooooooooooooo hisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
     
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    lol One of the two will certainly have their hype bubbles burst stick and I'm just hoping Pont replicates the 2009 Mikael D'Haguenet rather than an expensive flop like Boston Bob was last year!
     
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  9. GGW

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    Re Simonsig I think 2 things of interest have come to light from the preview evenings that are worthy of consideration

    a) There are some at Seven Barrows, Tinkler included, who think Simonsig is better than Sprinter Sacre. Allow that to sink in.

    b) (I saw this on twitter and will hopefully post a full report in the preview reports page when there is a full write up). People who know him from his p2p days have reported he is a real wimp deep down. That got me thinking, we've only ever seen him involved in 1 competitive finish which was vs Fingal Bay. And he lost. Overturn is not an easy horse to pass.
     
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  10. GGW

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    Is that dependant on which race he goes for or do you think he gets beat in either? If he was mine he'd be running in the Jewson. Henderson has already said if Dynaste goes for the Jewson then Cap Conan could well head for the Arkle. And he's the favourite for the Jewson. Not a great looking field and you don't have all the worries that the RSA brings.
     
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    I have heard this before too.
    that is why I am finding it hard to oppose Simonsig.

    however like a lot of the Cheltenham races this year it is very hard to predict what is likely to happen because of the lack of prep races.

    the Gold Cup is the obvious example - how can anyone really know what form Bobs Worth and Long Run are in
     
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  12. Reebok

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    MTOY - there are two class acts in the Supreme, and my money is on the other one!


    Un Atout in case you hadn't heard <laugh>
     
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  13. CaptainPops

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    My view is that he will be beaten in either. If Captain Conan definitely goes for the Jewson then he will win it. I dont trust much of what Nicky Henderson says or whats reported he says !
     
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  14. GGW

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    Dynaste miles> Captain Conan imho
     
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    Sir Des Champs
     
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    Simonsig for me. Won't have faced an opponent like Overturn, will just fail to catch him up the hill.
     
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  18. Exotic Dancer 4 Eva

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    Unfortunately DYNASTE falls into a really unwanted trend. The last 18 WINNERS of the Feltham have not gone onto to win the season's RSA. Don't think it is going buck the trend either. I was all over SIMONSIG last year, however it is far too short off the back of 2 runs, think OVERTURN will burn the grass up the hill. HURRICANE FLY needs to improve from last year and seems to want a cut in the ground, so can see that getting beat along with PONT ALEXANDER. Considering it has only had one run outside of novice company i can't be having BOBS WORTH
     
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  19. Exotic Dancer 4 Eva

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    Add CUE CARD to the list, especially if FIRST LIEUTENANT rocks up.
     
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  20. Doge287

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    I just can't understand Bobs Worth being 3/1 for the big GC. Only one run this year, a winner, and then to come and take on another set of unknowns at HQ with questions marks against them. The GC is a very interesting race... Bobs worth has Cheltenham form over the last two years but has one run, Silviniaco Conti has been impressive but was steered away from Chelts last year because of the track, Sir Des Champs imperious at Chelts over the last two years and I have backed him both years but has he beaten much at 3m in Ireland given Flemenstar not well and not his distance. I personally will be playing on SDC due to his previous course form and we all know how much course form helps at the festival but with a saver on Imperial Commander who will improve and could be a jack in the box this year
     
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