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QPR - The delusions go on

Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by Cruyff's Turn, Feb 25, 2013.

  1. Cruyff's Turn

    Cruyff's Turn Well-Known Member

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    Now they have a thread theorising that they may have a season in The Championship. "a season" -as in one.
     
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  2. stilljaroldcanary

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    Yes but they failed to conclude that once all the mercenaries have left and they go into admin that the next one will be L1
     
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  3. Beefforhire-NCFC

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    Though Harry saying they'd be "fine" on match of the day was the funniest bit of saturday night entertainment I've seen since Noels House Party.
     
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  4. Home on the range canary

    Home on the range canary Well-Known Member

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    So really really not funny then
     
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  5. Cruyff's Turn

    Cruyff's Turn Well-Known Member

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    £12milion pound man gave a good impersonation of Mr.Blobby.
     
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  6. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    Hands up who bought a "on loan to the Championship" T-shirt some years ago when we went that way? (I think it was the first time we went down from the PL) Oh boy, how that came back to bite a few arses <laugh>
     
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  7. Resurgam

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    No comment
     
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  8. THURNBY CANARY

    THURNBY CANARY Active Member

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    QPR could well be in a new division called the bust league along with Portsmouth and Rushden. There will be others too as economic reality kicks in at some point and some mug has also got to pick up Man City and Chelski's debts one day.
    Wenger might be a stubborn old sod but I do admire him for his wage caps and refusal to pay stupid money. Even SFA has drawn the line at times and still some of his first team are players that he has developed, so Mancini's tirade about him being the best manager in England is farcical.
     
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  9. Bath-Canary

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    Their biggest problem is the Financial Fair play rules kick in for the football league next season so TF will only be able to put £3m in, theres no way parachute payments will cover the current wage bill so they will need to sell.
     
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  10. Walsh.i.am

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    I think it's called 'forward planning', Bath - or complete lack of it <doh>
    And of the players they may need to unload, who the hell would want that type of mercenary anyway, Jamie Mackie apart?
     
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  11. canary-dave

    canary-dave Well-Known Member

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    What I can't believe is this is the 11th post on a thread with QPR in the title, and still no sign of Wubba! I hope he's ok! ;)
     
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  12. Norfolkbhoy

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    I just don't see FFP having the impact that many optimists seem to think. I am sure that there are currently teams of corporate lawyers and accountants working on a way round the regulations. Even if it works the way it is designed to the clubs with the biggest infrastructures like Man U/Arsenal will still be able to afford the best players and the only thing it will stop will be a rich sugar-daddy helping a club go up the leagues a la Man City/Chelsea.

    I'd love to think that football could return to the days when a club could nurture local talent and rise though the leagues and the like of Derby/Forest/Leeds/Villa/Blackburn (not a good example I know) or even Ipswich or ourselves could have a shot a winning the league rather than making up the numbers and acting as feeder clubs for the top few. We laugh at the SPL only having two clubs capable of winning it (and now only one) but realistically maybe three teams have a shot at the Premier League - Man U/Chelsea/Man City and previously switch City for Arsenal - in the 20 years of the EPL Man U have 12 titles and Chelsea/Arsenal 3 each. Hardly an open league and I don't see FFP making any difference to this. The only thing which would make a huge difference would be if the Sky cash disapppeared.

    I reckon QPR will find a way round the new regs and their board will throw enough cash at the problem for them to bounce. I know getting out of the Championship is perceived as difficult but if the relegated teams can hold their squads together or even add to them then they should have the quality to prevail. QPR will hold onto their players and the odds are they will bounce straight back as there is not a huge amount of quality in the Championship at this point.
     
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  13. THURNBY CANARY

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    To be honest it is wishful thinking but it would help to level a very un-level playing field. Man City's world squad is taking the p*ss and they won't even win it this year - back to Mancini's brilliance again.
     
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  14. RiverEndRick

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    Having supported City for over 40 years now, I can only say that it has always been the same, it's just that proportionally the money has got greater. ManUre have always dominated financially. Chelsea and ManCity are recent phenomena, as Liverpool and Forest were in years gone by. If you get the mix and commitment right, as City did in the early nineties, then success at the higher reaches is possible (witness Forest during the Clough era). I'm an optimist, but I think City are well poised for something similar next year. :emoticon-0116-evilg
     
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  15. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

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    the most disappointing thing about qpr's situation is that we could all see this happening two years ago. i remember saying at the time to a fan who was boasting about their plan for 'world domination' and 'brand' etc, that i gave them a 1% chance of being successful, ie winning the title, and a 99% chance of going bust. he didn't like that, unsurprisingly, but he was hoodwinked like many others were into believing the hype from their owner. at the end of the day, they were always likely to fail because they didn't have the infrastructure already in place to do well. teams like citeh and chelsea already had decent teams (albeit not the best) and great stadiums and big fan bases. qpr's hardcore is probably about 10k max. the massive wages and transfer fees were only ever going to lead the club to ruin. they never stood a chance...
     
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  16. JM Fan

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    Apparently, Shearer said as much on MotD on Sat. I'll be quite surprised if they escape the drop this year.
     
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  17. DHCanary

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    Sorry, this isn't something I was aware of, so QPR can only run at a deficit of £3m, or presumably get penalised?

    Parachute payments are £16m, + around £4m from other championship based income (from an independent article I've just dug up), so basically QPR can spend £23m more than they make from tickets, shirt sales and sponsorship?

    Old figures (the telegraph) say in the championship QPR had a turnover of £16.2m, and spent £29.7m on wages. Apparently on promotion they had an operating loss of £25.7m (£500,000 a week!!), so even with the squad they were promoted with, they'd have fallen foul of FFP.

    Looking around online, apparently Bosingwa will cost QPR £8m to get rid of, so they'll have to sell anyone who they can. Remy, Samba, Cesar, Mackie, but then I'm struggling. I hadn't realised how up the creek they are.
     
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  18. CarlaCanary

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    Completely forgot about Boswinga DH! Is he still playing in their first team at the moment?
     
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  19. DHCanary

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    I believe he had his first start since November at the weekend.
     
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  20. CarlaCanary

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    That tells you a lot then! Also, what's happened to Onuoha, DJ Campbell, Bothroyd etc?

    The fact that Cisse could only be loaned to a Qatari club shows how difficult it is going to be for them to get rid of these wasted players.
     
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