We will qualify again at the end of this season AW will have a mega fire sale and go on a spending spree in the Summer of 2013 We will win the league in 2013-14 plus one of the minor cups (at least) We will win the CL in 2014-15 AW will retire at the end of 2015 having secured an extra years contract in 2014 All the cry babies will vanish until the next time we hit a rough patch Happy days
Just you and about half the board. The other half doesn't buy into it so don't lump your opinion on evryone
I'd like you explain which points you disagree with and why you think Wenger is the guy to take Arsenal forward? This isn't just targetted at you, it's for anyone who thinks he's still the right man to explain, with the help of facts and figures if possible, why he should be entrusted with the future of the club. So far it's been: He won things once. He hasn't had money. Are there any other reasons? I've outlined, in detail, why I think he isn't the right man, but there's been a painfully silent lack of any reasoning from those who think he should stay.
http://www.not606.com/poll.php?pollid=3176&do=showresults supporters win, fair weather fans lose. nuff said.
I don't know mate, I really don't. I think the moves were sanctioned, once the Board realized that either the players were going to leave on a free transfer, or that their value was going to drop dramatically. Financially, the board's position is that Arsenal just can't afford to have a 30M player wind down their career at Arsenal or go on a free. Now I honestly think that the board believe that. I am not sure that given the salary changes, if that transfer money gained is as significant as it used to be, but I do believe that the Board felt they had no choice but to do it. I don't think that it was some money making get rich quick scheme. And I certainly don't think Wenger let those players go out of choice. As far as all the tactical stuff goes, I think Wengers strengths were always that he got better players for less money. However, I do think it is a bit harsh that everyone blames him tactically when it seems to be common opinion that almost ALL our players are not good enough. Players like Djourou, Bendtner and Denilson that people say are terrible, playerd over 150 games for us and we finished in the top 4. Finishing oin the top 4 with awful players shows some tactical ability doesn't it?
wenger has had money to spend. infact hes spent more then man c in the last year. he wasted money on loads of averge players and cant get rid of santos arshavin bedner to name a few
Wrong. City nett expenditure in the summer: £32.1m (£52.2m out, £21.1m in) Arsenal nett expenditure in the summer: -£5.1m (£40.2m out, £45.3m in)
No offence but you seem to be so terrified of what would happen to Arsenal without the present coach that you are prepared to overlook ANYTHING he does , just to keep him here. Im glad im not so terrified of change as some of the posters on here. I welcome it , I embrace it. He will leave one day soon . better start believeing in a post wenger world . Its just on the horizon .
Whats more narrow minded, the title of this article or blaming Wenger? On the one hand we have a new stadium with associated debts, a financial model other teams can only dream of and we've maintained CL football while making a profit on transfers for years. On the other hand we have a manager who has insisted on a project of buying potential and turning them into stars, who wont buy stars because it would "kill" younger players, who has not spent when he has £10s millions to spend. I personally think it is narrow minded to back Wenger without question.
I think I sort of look forward to it too, because I don't think the new man will face anything like the expectations Wenger has. If we finish mid-table for three years and don't win a cup either, no one will complain or say a word. Wenger is the only reason that anyone thinks that Arsenal should win. Those 5 years of success are the only reason that anyone expects Arsenal to be anywhere near the top. Look at Spurs, no one in the press or anywhere else starts a dog and pony show when they get knocked out of the cups or don't qualify for Europe. A new man will not have to face that. And we will not have to listen to it either.
another myth . We finished in the top 4 simply because there were far less strong teams . Most of the teams we were nailed on to beat . Most teams in the PL now are no pushovers , our weakness is now harder to hide than it was 5 or 6 years ago. Even with " better " players . Those teams have all figured out how to combat Arsenals predictable attacks. Its not hard when you have only a plan A .
Similarly, it's narrow minded to blame Wenger alone without attempting to define and explore all the variables at play. We're all guilty of either side to a degree. Football is incredibly hard to be objective about
Barring a major catastrophe it won't be for another 18 months. The board won't sack him lightly and I doubt strongly he'll walk away from his contract.
if you are going on simple logic , i would like ONE example of why we should persist with Arsene Wenger , lots of people have said why they think he should be replaced. Where are the reasons why he shouldnt be replaced. Apart from the " who else could do the job " ones. Thats NOT a good enough reason to keep someone , coz you are too scared to think of the alternative. Discount sentimental reasons , and fear of the unknown , then what have you got ?
I think if we dont scrape fourth , he may well walk . We have seen his reaction in the press conflabs , to questions about his perceived failure. I think he will flip if they start to really pile it on . Which they certainly will if we end up out of europe after out european record.
Why do you always end up talking this Plan A-Plan B bullshit? I would have thought that this year you would think that we have more of a Plan A-Plan B than ever before, but we are worse. Anyway I don't disagree with you on what you are saying, but I am not sure why you think that Wenger winning with less, and producing miracles (even if it was done by taking advantage of a weak league) was going to last forever. Eventually everyone else would see what we were doing with no money and go, "**** it, we don't have any money either, we can do that!" That was bound to happen. I agree with most of what you wrote here, but there is no, we are getting worse, Wenger is getting worse in this scenario. What you are implying is that we have to do something new and different in order to win, that we have never done before. What is that? I love the idea that there is a super-secret unbeatable plan B, but I am going to need a few more details on that before backing you as the new manager.
plan B is simply , something that isnt plan A. Its being able to look at the way the other team is playing and ...................get this .........................CHANGE THE WAY YOU PLAY ! His tactics are one dimensional . As he would say . " we only know one way to play ..the Arsenal way " well , dunno how to break it to you Arsene but , they opposition now knows EXACTLY what that is. If you are losing and you got 10 minutes left , why dont you try the " Man Utd way , or the Leicester City way , or the Wolverhampton wanderers way ." revolutionary aint it. ?
If Arsenal are losing with 10 minutes left and have been playing attacking football all match, what's the alternative?
Well, it would be revolutionary, if man United would lend us Rooney and Van Persie to play the way they play, just for the last 10 minutes of a game when we are behind. I think you will fing the Wolverhamprton or Leicester City way, is just to lose. We have actually been pretty good at comebacks this year I think. I think these days teams aren't very surprised by the way teams play. When you step out against Chelsea, you know what you are going to get. Mata isn't going to be dropping deep and defending, doesn't matter if it is Plan A, B or C. Anyway, I grant you Wengers plan, call it Plan A if you like, isn't the magical win formula it used to be, but berating him for being the same as 99% of managers out there and not having a magical win formula seems to be a bit harsh. How is it he get treated worse, because people have caught up with his win formula, than the managers that never had one in the first place?
