Failure to get an away goal certainly isn't aiding their cause, though...Milan's ruthless on the counter, so Barca may well need to put four by them at Camp Nou to advance.
If you're giving a penalty you have to think it's deliberate via your interpretion. That's the law. I can understand if you said his arm was outstretched and you interpreted that he intended to block a shot with it. Therefore it's a deliberate handball. You saying it's a penalty but not deliberate makes no sense to me. You're telling me you interpreted that it wasn't deliberate but a stone wall penalty? If you look at the actual law if you think what you said then it's not a penalty even if he gained an advantage from it hitting his arm. Law below for Handling the ball Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the ball with his hand or arm. The referee must take the following into consideration (to decide whether it's deliberate or not): • the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand) • the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball) • the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an infringement • touching the ball with an object held in the hand (clothing, shinguard, etc.) counts as an infringement • hitting the ball with a thrown object (boot, shinguard, etc.) counts as an infringement
Hmm, 3-0..? I'm not sure they can manage to be that much better. All ACM have to do is park the bus again. Perfect tactics against a team that thought it would cruise. And they did. They cruised to a loss. I think it's good for football that they did.
Coral have just announced that as a good will gesture they will fly the guy, and a mate, out to the Nou Camp for the return leg. Two free tickets, free flights and they're gonna put him up out there too. Nice touch.
Well it hit his head after all. The interesting thing is he was clearly trying to get out of the way of the shot. He even lifted his arms above his head hoping nothing could get in the way. So even if it had hit his arm there is no way that can be given as hand ball it would make no sense
Yeah, fair play to the guy as well, getting loads of stick on twitter (for some reason) but he seems genuinely happy: "Some people are greedy, i am GRATEFUL, it was a FREE bet, i didn't expect to win anything but i have, camp nou"
Whilst a lot of people have been hoping for that so-called "dream final" of Barca v Real, it has been good to see Manchester United and Milan use all their European experience to put them in pole position for the return legs. Perhaps Arsenal fans won't feel too despondent to be going out if joined by those two clubs. Having said that Arsenal may not even be in Europe next season let alone the Champions league if they finish 6th or lower if one of the FA Cup finalists is not one of the top 4 teams or Everton assuming the other finalist is, as they get the Europa League place regardless of the result.
Apparently a bunch of Spurs fans got chased/attacked by some group of Nazis in Lyon last night (my friend is a Spurs fan and was there himself). What with the hassle they got in Rome a while back, it makes you wonder whether they're not stoking the fire themselves by running around shouting and singing "Yids" everywhere they go.
They can shout and sing whatever the **** they want. If the words 'Yid Army' causes them to go into a Neo-Nazi furor, chances are they would've spent the afternoon chasing immigrants or the well-tanned or something otherwise...they generally don't need much fire-stoking.
It's a shame if they're being targeted, and what they sing is not an excuse for violence of course, but the "yid" chanting is disgraceful in my opinion, whatever the intentions. Most spurs fans are not jews. It would be like Bradford fans chanting "paki army".
I'd agree if there was an outpouring of resentment from the Jewish community, but that never seems to be the case whenever it becomes an issue.
I don't recall an outpouring of support from the jewish community either. They're a tiny minority in Britain and are not a very vocal group. If every football club had anti-Schad chants, would you accept it being excused because only one person complained? A tiny proportion of spurs fans are jewish, they have no right whatsoever to reclaim that word.
Not talking about the Nazis though am I? I'm talking about the Spurs fans. If you know you are likely to be set upon and attacked by singing certain songs, then why do it?
They shouldn't sing those songs, but not for that reason. People should be free to do what they want (within reason) without the threat of violence.
"Yid" isn't an offensive word, by the way. It's not the equivalent of "Paki". I don't know where I stand on this issue to be honest, but I do think it's important to point out that it's the intent behind the word that matters. Merely saying it in a non-offensive manner is not wrong in any way. It seems to me that Spurs fans are mostly innocent in the matter, but are perhaps unwittingly enticing racism from fans of other clubs.
I think that they're wittingly enticing racism from fans of other clubs, but in the game of "who is the asshole?", I'm going with the racist idiots, rather than the people tweaking the racist idiots.
Er, I hate to disagree with someone with such a jewish-sounding name but I think you'll find it is pretty universally considered offensive Joe. With the exception of spurs fans anyway! Intent is one thing, and certainly many spurs fans claim it's respectful and so on, but clearly there are many who use it as an excuse to say something controversial and get away with it. Enough jews have expressed their distaste for it that I can't really defend it.
Well it's not as offensive, and people rarely take offense to the term being used in a non-offensive manner. In the Yiddish language, people use it in the same way as we use the word "mate". When Tottenham fans use it, they are largely expressing their pride of being based in a historically large Jewish community. Even if they're not Jewish themselves, they're using it in a positive manner. Unfortunately there are some people, mostly fans of other clubs, who do use the word in a derogatory manner, but Spurs fans can't be taking the blame for that. I think if you did a survey among Jewish people, most would probably say they're not particularly bothered anyway.
