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The New Thinking..

Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by wizered, Feb 20, 2013.

  1. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker Staff Member

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    It's a new day and defeat and being the worse team in the league feels just as bad as it did last night, we all know our central defenders are crap and it seems no replacements are due, our midfield is poor and god only knows what's happened to our illustrious strike force, so crap defence, **** midfield and toothless up front, it all spells one thing to me RELEGATION...there I've said it...

    You can't blame SOD for the players he's inherited but what infuriates me is the soapy comments and platitudes he slips out to the players after defeats and gutless performances and the desire to contain rather than create, go forward and attack the opposition.

    A couple of SOD's warming comments to placate the players after last nights failure..

    * "We were brave and pressed high up the pitch. We gave it our best and I would have taken the performance all day long.

    * "Nothing fazed us and we kept going. If you have a group of payers prepared to do that, then that is gold-dust.

    * "The worst case scenario is getting beaten twice, thumped, the spirit broken and the attitude not right but we are a million miles away from that.

    * "We are disappointed with the result, but happy with the attitude. The enthusiasm to play the game and work hard for each other was there."


    A good old fashioned bollocking, a swift kick up the ass, drop the poor performers and replace with some of our younger, hungrier players who might not have the so called experience but will run, try and die for the club.

    We are not good enough, unless we have a miracle we are doomed, we having nothing to lose and everything to gain but let's stop trying to bullshit the fans and comfort the poor little powder puffs who constantly let us down on the field of play, take their £5k plus a week happily and drive off in their luxury, flash cars and twitter each other about how good they are...

    Results count, not the way we lose, if you consistently lose you are crap and fail, if you win a few you survive, how much longer are we going to be told, we are good enough, the players are under performing, the players have failed, they are not good enough, drop them, get them out, tell them the way it is, they are crap and let's move on, relegation or not, we don't need to put up with it...

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8511089/
     
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  2. Shinycitylad7

    Shinycitylad7 Looking at the stars mate

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    We're going down. Simple as, I knew this before SOD took over. Ill still be going down supporting the boys just as much as I have all season and look forward to renewing my ST but the simple fact is were not good enough to stay up, Ive accepted it and will enjoy the rest of the season in the championship :)
     
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  3. invermeremike

    invermeremike Well-Known Member

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    Wow Wize! The big problem is that you are spot on and it beggars belief that there is nobody in charge that seems to care. A very sad state of affairs that could have been totally different with a bit of positive and forward thinking, but no we just decided to stick with the rubbish that has been hanging around for years and here we are about to be relegated. Absolute tragedy and an insult to the suuporters.
     
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  4. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    A very sad state of affairs but not unusual I'm afraid.

    As for bollockings, I would have hoped that Del would have been that sort of no nonsense person to have carried that out when he was in charge but who knows. All I hope is that under SO'D we are not reverting to the 'no-one is to blame' and vanilla **** that Millen dished out, but reading those quotes makes me wonder, and also cringe.

    Your comments are spot on Wiz, the players and the Manager need to be demonstrating some passion and commitment to the cause at this most critical of times, not coming out with some half ****ing baked cliches that any muppet could come up with. Lets see some fire in the belly and some real will to win !!!!!!!!!
     
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  5. Three Lions BS3

    Three Lions BS3 Member

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    You would sack one of the greatest managers England ever saw mate. Brian Clough! Cloughs teams often sat back and denied teams space in the final third v superior opponents. you can lose and improve and city have. It is very clear what Sean O'driscoll is attempting. Getting compact is the most logical thing to do. its a team game and the team is not conceding so many. No good chopping and changing team and tactics after every defeat thats what put city here in the first place. Look at what has improved and build on that.Sean O'driscoll has the rep of a methiodical tactician and that is what we have seen. Only a month ago a win against forest and watford would have seen unilkely.
     
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  6. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker Staff Member

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    Let me make one thing clear, I have not called for and I don't want in any way, shape or form SOD sacked, I do want us to move on the crap players that have let him and us down..
     
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  7. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    IMO the fans and the board got cocky in the first season back to the championship......we got to the playoffs but everyone wanted more instantly..
    The talk of premiership football, entertaining football, world cup coming to Bristol and a new 40,000 stadium.......
    Once we failed to get past Hull at Wembley, most fans demanded better instantly and if GJ couldn't provide it then so be it......I remember shouting "be careful what you wish for"

    Again, IMO, SL lost a bit of interest once there was no World cup and the farce regarding the stadium..

    I know we're not down yet, but if the board has any sense, they will be planning and orgainising next season, whatever division we find ourselves in.
     
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  8. Three Lions BS3

    Three Lions BS3 Member

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    You are going to have a long wait fella some of them have years left on those contracts. I expected cardiff and palace to be tearing city a new arse. Interesting that regular batterings have disappeared outplayed by better teams but not hammered. the season was not going to hang on cardiff and palace away. bit of realism needed. thirteen left three out of the next four at home. quite looking forward to it because Mcinnes gave city no chance, hopeless full stop worst manager I have ever seen at City. O'driscoll has done more in weeks than Mcinnes did with time.
     
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  9. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    I think that's why SO'D is here and was approached when Del was sacked.

    If the almost inevitable relegation does come to pass, then I think he is the man to try and get us back at the first time of asking, but I remember just how long it tool last time!!
     
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  10. Red Alert

    Red Alert Well-Known Member

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    Any muppet can go yayayayya. He is setting his stall out clearly each game. Team has improved.

    Three wins out of seven and he is getting coated off.
     
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  11. Sixtyseconds

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    Whats this dissing the manager only hours into the job?

    If you get yourself discipined and organised that is a solid basis to build from.

    If you are ill disciplined and un-organised unless you are Brazil you will get your arse handed to you ... That was the old thinking.

    Right this new thinking should be something to hang your hat on.
     
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  12. glenngregory

    glenngregory Active Member

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    This is my comment of the Day. Well said Young Shiny lad
     
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  13. Premiershiporbust....

    Premiershiporbust.... Active Member

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    Come on Wiz, what is he going to say - these are the guys that have to keep us in this division and they are playing as instructed in terms of trying to be more solid and keeping it tight. I expressed a wish that we had been more aggressive last night but I guess that if we are getting used to playing in a different manner that will benefit us in the long run, then I can't be too harsh

    As for relegation, I am still in denial I am afraid as people don't seem to be able to look past the end of their noses, I mean who in their right mind was expecting us to get something at Cardiff or Palace...?

    Just because we lost lost these 2 games doesn't mean the we can't possibly win any of the next 13 - as I have identified, there are 6 or 7 winnable games left against teams around us so its still on lads so come on, lets pack the Gate and get behind the team like at the end of last season as it is sure to help...

    I have to admit I will be forced to re-evaluate if we don't beat Barnsley but hopefully this will not be necessary and should we win, there is a decent chance that this will de-rail that little train...
     
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  14. MassiveAttack

    MassiveAttack Well-Known Member

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    We have improved simply playing players we have in the correct positions resulting in Clean sheets and wins at home. We as supporters have always stayed positive but it seems Sean has to do his best with what he has and they simply aren't good enough, after some time we will return to the championship better and stronger, what ever happens we will always follow and support the City!
     
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  15. cidered abroad

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    The big problem is that we are still shipping goals because we have underperforming or incapable of Championship standard central defenders and central midfielders.

    Yesterdays actual first Palace goal, ignoring the one the linesman disallowed, which he got wrong earlier in the half.

    Watch it on the video. Marv wrestles a Palace player to the ground; ref gives a free kick and Marv immediately turns to the ref to argue; Palace player grabs the ball and hits it in the air toward our goal where guess who managed to be caught out of position and his jump to head it clear was pretty comical. End result Murray is left alone to volley it past Heaton.

    So where is this wonderful organisation that SOD is going on about. Marv is arguing instead of getting back toward our box and Fontaine is caught out of position for the umpteenth time this season. Where were the rest of the back four?

    SOD refuses to say if he's looking for loanees as it my upset the players in those positions if he does. So is he looking or is he not?
    Or is it the case that no-one wants to come here?

    Second goal from a free kick some 22 yards from goal. Not one of those in the wall jumped up to attempt to block or deflect the shot. Heaton badly positioned too close to his left hand post.

    Organisation and discipline still not working just like the McInnes days because what we've got in central defence and central midfield is simply not good enough.

    And it appears that we'll not get anyone in until it's too late in the summer. IT'S NOT THE SUPPORTERS WHO HAVE GIVEN UP. MORE LIKE THE BOARD, FOOTBALL MANAGEMENT AND ABOVE ALL THE SHOWER THAT IS CALLED OUR SQUAD. Yes there may be the odd exceptions among them but the way the club has been run down in the last five years beggars belief!
     
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  16. hawkmoonfy2

    hawkmoonfy2 Well-Known Member

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    We follow City through good and bad times we have followed the reds through times worse than this Wize the early 80's for example I still think S O'D is the best manager we can have in our current situation, and as for getting in new players we can only get those players in who are willing to come and we all know the problems successive managers have had in attracting good CB's to the club, surely the last thing we need is to rush into a quick fix and end up with players like a Damion Stewart or a Nicky Hunt we have to make sure that whoever comes is going to be better than what we have.
     
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  17. cidered abroad

    cidered abroad Well-Known Member

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    Yes Hawk, you are right. But without being morbid as I approach my 70th birthday and even though at present I am in very good health, can walk the dog up and down the mountains where I live, swim three or four hours per week;
    If we take as long to come back up as we did after 1999's relegation, it is quite possible that in April when I come back for two home games, they may be the last times that I will see City in the Championship in my lifetime. And if that's the case the Premiership really is just a lost dream.

    Yes I'll come over to see as many as I can next season, but do I really want to see us playing Crawley or Colchester?
     
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