I understand that the new Labour Council rather than make a commercial decision themselves, will put the idea of selling the KC to the Hull residents. As a City supporter living in the East Riding it will be very frustrating having to stand by a watch over a vote that will considerably effect my club and yet have no voice. My concern is that like me I believe a vast amount of City supporters also live outside of the Hull boundary. Therefore, will the majority of Hull people who maybe don't give a toss simply vote 'No' along with the likely high percentage of Hull FC fans (Hessle Road) and possibly also Rovers fans (East Hull/Preston Road). Unfortunately, Hull people tend to have a habit of not wanting change, to better themselves and the City, and are especially sceptical of commercial adventure by private business. How often do you think we will hear 'the Allams are in it to make money' prior to any such referendum? Rather than consider the massive gains Hull would have from such investment from an external source. Also I would be interested to hear from any City fans inside the Hull boundary that would vote No - will there be any?
If it goes to a referendum I think it'll get defeated, for the reasons you've stated. The people of Hull have a strange aversion to change/success and unfortunately I think they'll shoot themselves in the foot again, if it goes to a referendum that is, which I don't think is likely. You can imagine the national Daily Mail headline already "Labour Council wastes YOUR MONEY on stadium sale" or something like that. Brady needs to get some balls and make the decision himself.
I think you'd have to be completely bonkers to reject the opportunity to have some of Britain's best sporting facilities built in your city, but as this is Hull, I think that's probably exactly what they'll do. It's also the reason there should be no referendum and that clueless twat Brady should make an executive decision for once, as I'm afraid the great population of Hull will continue to be suspicious and small minded and will just balls the job up. I think substantial parts of East Hull might have had their votes bought yesterday for ã1m, the majority of City fans will vote for it, Hull FC fans will be split and those who aren't interested will just vote No to annoy the rest of the East Riding.
I guess it depends on the question. "Do you want the stadium extended and a new sports development" YES/NO. "Do you object to the Council selling the stadium and associated land" YES/NO. I wonder where it would leave the Allams if the concensus was short of their full aims. For example (only) that they could buy some sort of holding on the Stadium but not the land it stood on and have to provide a suitable site for the fair and pikey boot sale.
Personally, I'd like it phrased like this. Please tick one of the options below: A/ I am small minder insular sub-human who can barely sign his own name and I'd like the council to keep ownership of it's loss making stadium. B/ I am a very intelligent human being, who can see the massive benefit of bringing these fantastic facilities to this great city of ours and would like Mr Allam to be gifted the entire site, including the stadium.
The decision should be down to the elected members, they are elected exactly for this reason: to make difficult decisions.
As in most elections only about 30-35% will vote anyway. Lets hope progress motivates more than vindictiveness.
I am current resident of Hull, but moving to the East Riding very soon. Of course I would back the proposals from the Allam's as they actually want to turn Hull into a place people will WANT to visit. Wouldn't it be nice if the next time away fans chanted 'Hull is a ****hole' we could all chuckle to ourselves thinking, their just jealous? If the plans came to life i can't think of anywhere else in the country which would have a fully established sports village on such a level, other than the Olympic venue of course.
A I am as thick as **** and my usual signature is an x so I will just guess. B You live in the east riding and do not pay council tax to Hull city council and is therefore none of your business. Maybe a bit simplistic, but everyone(including your good self) has a right to campaign for what they believe to be right. The people of Hull will decide by their votes. Should this go to a referundum it may well be close. The passionate will turn out, the apathetic will not. That's democracy.
My latest post was not intended as a reply to this question, however I will get back to you on this one.
Unfortunately I agree with the majority of posters here that the stupid people will vote against it and win.
Wonder why you would want to vote against it? I live in the East Riding, and should this come to a referendum and the people of Hull vote against the proposals, then I would have to support Mr Allam in his alternative proposals to relocate to Melton. I feel that Mr Allams vision for sport in Hull has been met with far too much negativity and lots of cynical opinion from local people which is very sad and indicative of the backward thinking and lack of aspiration in the City.
My questions were meant to be humorous, rather than an actual slight on the good people of Hull, of which I am one(even if I do currently reside in the East Riding). It's true that HCC built the stadium and that it's the people of Hull that will be asked to make the decision on it's future, though if it goes ahead, it will be funded as much by the residents of the East Riding, as it will be the residents of Hull. In fact, probably more so. So if us East Yorkshire folk are good enough to fund a load of jobs for Hull folk, then the least you can do is be a bit grateful and vote for it.
It seems we do not have to rely on the away support of other teams to try and belittle the citizens of Hull with their comments on how thick we all are. I accept your comment was tounge in cheek OLM, as was my reply. If and I do say IF this goes to referendum then surely nobody would have to justify to anybody(particulairly outsiders) how and why they would/did vote. I am happy ro engage in debate on this issue but let's not turn it into an anti Hull thing eh?
I don't think it's an anti-Hull thing, but I do think the residents of Hull can shoot themselves in the foot when it comes to stuff like this, every capital investment made is automatically converted into the number of new fences for council houses it could be spent on or the number of nurses it could pay for (even though it's irrelevant). I hate to say it because I like Hull and I'm proud to say I come from there, but there's it's a reason it's not progressing when cities around it such as Leeds/Sheffield are, Christ, even Liverpool, the motherland of insularism (that a word?), is improving.
