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Mancini: I'm the best manager in England.

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by tomw24, Feb 18, 2013.

  1. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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    I've thought for a long time that Mourinho has his heart set on replacing Ferguson. Going to City would end that.

    More to the point, would United ever offer him the job?
     
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  2. pass the football

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    Why would he turn them down? He wants to manage in England again and they can afford to pay him more than anyone else. I suppose if Chelsea was on offer he might prefer to go back there, but then again, it's not the same Chelsea he left is it? Almost all of his players are, or will be, gone.
     
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  3. Joe!

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    I don't think his salary will be his priority, he seems to prioritise status and sometimes he talks like he's already got his career planned out. We all know he wants to return to England, but I bet he's got his eyes on Fergie's job. He'd love to think he's the natural successor to the best manager in the game. Mourinho to stay at Real a little longer, I reckon.
     
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  4. pass the football

    pass the football Well-Known Member

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    Really can't see him staying at Real beyond this season. He is doing a really good job of alienating everyone connected to the club! If he wants a job in England after that, he'll have plenty of opportunities, but he's not going to get United.
     
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  5. tomw24

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    Like PTF I think Mourinho will leave Madrid at the end of the season, unless he wins the CL. If he wins the CL everyone who he pissed off will forgive him and I could see him staying for another season or so (or until Fergie retires).
     
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  6. Beef

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    Mourinho back to Chelsea and Klopp to City.
     
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  7. pass the football

    pass the football Well-Known Member

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    If he wins the champions league I think he'll go anyway, that's job done as far as he's concerned. If he doesn't, he'll be sacked. Either way I can't see him staying for another season.

    Not a bad shout.
     
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  8. tomw24

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    Wouldn't surprise me. Mourinho is the only one who would be able to handle Roman's ego. Mainly because he has got just as big an ego, if not a bigger one himself!
     
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  9. Che’s Godlike Thighs

    Che’s Godlike Thighs Well-Known Member

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    It all depends on how deep you want to take the analysis. The next factor would be to value the squad and then determine how many points had been won per million pounds spent etc. After all, it is going to be much more difficult for Paul Lambert to get 3 points than it is Mancini. So to decide who is the best manager purely on who has won the Premier League title is entirely futile. If this is how 'best manager' is decided, then surely Roberto Di Matteo would trump Mancini, since he won the Champions League. In addition, Mancini's failure to qualify from the groups stages of the Champions League is surely far too detrimental to his record for him to claim to be the best.
     
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  10. pass the football

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    Yes, as I said earlier you can look at it in any way you like and by any analysis other than league results during that time, he's probably wrong, which is why it's pretty safe to assume he meant on league results. "In England" suggests he's not considering European results anyway. On his chosen measure, he does have the best record. So he is correct.

    Yes, he's picked the most favourable analysis, but by that measure, he's correct.
     
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  11. Che’s Godlike Thighs

    Che’s Godlike Thighs Well-Known Member

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    I see what you're saying, but you can't seperate domestic and European performance so simply. They are far too interrelated. Being ****e in one competition will allow you to do better in the other, and vice versa (just like when Liverpool won the Champions League but finished 5th in the Prem). So you could argue that City only won the title last year because they had no Champions League commitments. Narrowing down his requisites for 'best manager' status just goes to show how pathetic his claim is. Why claim to be the best at all when you have to narrow down or deny other significant factors?

    I guess it's like me saying I'm the best manager right now sitting in front of my computer. It's true, I really am!
     
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  12. pass the football

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    Yep, can't argue with that. It's not likely to impress anyone though :)
     
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  13. Qwerty

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    Arsene is losing it also. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21499782

    AW: I don't know where information comes from.
    Journo: Me?
    AW: Yeah why do you look at me?
    Journo: Because it's your press conference.

    Later...
    AW: I have won four times the FA Cup, who has won more, give me one name.
    Sadly the journo didn't say "Fergie".
     
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  14. tomw24

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    Not Mancini related, but he's a manager and Italian so close enough. Unconfirmed reports that Di Canio has resigned as manager of Swindon.
     
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  15. tomw24

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    Confirmed - Paulo Di Canio has resigned as Swindon Town manager.
     
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  16. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    I've been critical of him in the last couple of days, but I didn't think he was quite losing it, Qwerty. Sure he was annoyed and perhaps a bit rattled, but I thought he was reasonably logical throughout. In answer to the journo who could possibly have said Fergie, perhaps it illustrates the superficial knowledge that most of them have in their heads that not one from them could be sure in coming up with the name. Also, if we're being picky [and I had to look this up, so it shows I'm no better], Wenger has won the FA Cup more times than Ferguson since Wenger has been in English football. So he has a point.
     
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  17. tomw24

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    Adkins for Swindon? <laugh> Somehow I think not! That club is in a mess.
     
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  18. pass the football

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    Fixed that for you, that makes him look a bit less mental doesn't it? And the FA Cup bit was in response to accusations he doesn't care about the cup (and indeed, as TSS says, Wenger has won it more times than Ferguson since he arrived at Arsenal).

    He was pissed off because they kept asking him questions about Blackburn. He made the point that the post-match press conference for that game has already happened which is probably fair enough. He doesn't come across particularly well, especially when the context is removed, but I can understand his annoyance to a degree.
     
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  19. Joe!

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    I enjoyed Wenger's remarks, especially the sarcastic "no, I want to lose". Fair play to him.
     
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  20. Paulpowersleftfoot

    Paulpowersleftfoot Well-Known Member

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    Mancini was just redressing the balance with the media witch hunt against him which has been escalating for quite a while.This season hasn't been as good as last seasons title winning one but we are 2nd in the league and in the 1/4 finals of the FA cup so it's hardly a disaster.
    The supporters remain fully behind him,as you would no doubt have been aware if you were at St Mary's last week,and I would be very surprised if he's not leading us next season
    We've needed stability for decades and chopping & changing managers has been a constant drawback
     
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