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2013/2014 Season Ticket Prices

Discussion in 'Charlton' started by Holden Chinaski, Feb 15, 2013.

  1. Holden Chinaski

    Holden Chinaski Well-Known Member

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    The club announced today the new season ticket prices:

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    North Upper tickets for early purchases will now be £300. I've done some calculations and that means that prices will inflate by 22% for a full adult ticket. Whilst this is cheaper compared to other Championship clubs, we still don't seem to be bringing in the crowds.

    I've been a person whom believes that poor away support outside of the Premier League in general is caused by prices inflating in general (transport, food, etc), and the fact that we still bring between have an average 18,374 attendance <Stats>, out of a 27,000 seater stadium, would have it not made more sense to freeze prices at the same price of this season?

    When people feeling the pinch with increasing taxes, and inflation, I reckon that this'll only drive our attendances down.
     
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  2. Sat In Greenwich

    Sat In Greenwich Well-Known Member

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    i'm pretty gutted about this. i think last seasons early bird price was £220 or £240. this extra £60 may make those i go with (not native cafc supporters) think twice about renewing.
     
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  3. ybabobmij

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    Not a happy bunny! Very poor communications from the club. All we have us the early bird price. For this to mean anything we also need the price after the early bird offer, the proposed match day ticket prices for next year and whatever prices will apply if we are relegated. Without these, this is just a punt. And its an expensive punt! I paid the early bird price for this year's ST (£375). I am now asked to pay £440 which is a 17.3% increase. That is a huge rise. Comparisons with what we paid the the last time round in the championship are spurious. The world has moved on in the last three or four years and most folk have less money or less security than they had then. The club has got this wrong I'm afraid. I will need to think long and hard.
     
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  4. Sat In Greenwich

    Sat In Greenwich Well-Known Member

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    you'd have thought they'd lower prices to fill it more. surely more tickets at lower prices (then add on burger, programme and drinks sales) would have got them more money overall.

    i was about to go completely ape sh1t about this, but then looking at millwall (mainly £499, some £400) and palace (£395 and up to £540), it may seem we are still getting a good deal and watching much better football in a livelier atmosphere

    they should chuck in the cup games as an incentive or something.
     
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  5. ForestHillBilly

    ForestHillBilly Well-Known Member

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    The cost of a 60+ and an under-18 in the NW has gone up from £240 to £310. This is a massive increase, and a massive gamble by Slater&co., which may well backfire in these times of austerity.
     
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  6. Holden Chinaski

    Holden Chinaski Well-Known Member

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    It's true too about filling the stadium. Irrespective if we get 18,000 fans, or 27,700 (full capacity) they need to hire the same amount of security, staff and police, so their operating costs would remain the same. You get more people in their seats, and like Sat In Greenwich, people will buy match day programmes, pies, tops in the shop.

    This whole Cameron and Co., "we're all in it together" keeps ringing out bulls***!
     
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  7. CarrianCarcuss

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    As I finish uni this year I will be unsure if I can commit to every Saturday game in the first place so will not be buying a season ticket on early bird, but with these prices I highly doubt I will be able to get a season ticket anyway as I would have to get a full priced adult one as well.
     
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  8. CAFC TED

    CAFC TED Well-Known Member

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    Well they're probably going to lose me anyway, season ticket holder since must be 2002 (whenever North Upper was done) and being at Uni I don't get to anywhere near as many games as I can warrant a season ticket, well my Dad plays for it so depends if he wants to pay just to keep it so we can sit together after I leave uni, (Hope he does) but won't force him HINT HINT DAD ;) I know you'll read this :p
     
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  9. IA

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    Please, by all means, feel free to take what I say with a pinch of salt. I don't think I'll be a season ticket holder next season. The train would be too expensive.

    However...

    Genuine question: all other things being equal, which would have a higher number of season ticket sign-ups?
    a) first season back at a higher level after record-breaking season
    ii) second season back at the level after mid table finish

    Probably not much of a difference either way, but I think (a) would have more sign-ups. Then add in the factor that the midtable season features mediocre to poor home form, and a continued economic recession/depression, and I think the club are looking at reduced numbers if they keep the prices constant.

    So say they raise the prices across the board by 20%. The reduction in attendance would have to be over 16.5% before the club makes less money on ticket sales. Even a reduction of 2000 in attendance - which would be massive - would still result in higher ticket revenue for the club.

    Interesting point about having a full house every week. Bear in mind there's no free lunch - higher demand will probably need better infrastructure/more staff in stewarding, behind the bar etc, and those spending decisions would need to be made before the season starts. And a2c would end up with ketchup on his shoes. To earn a higher ticket revenue, those North Upper tickets would still need to be over £170. Is there the latent market there for people willing to spend this amount on Championship football at Charlton? Sure, for one-off matches, people do go, but for a season-long commitment like this, I don't think it's quite so clear cut. At PL level, people are more likely to make the sacrifices, but at Championship level, the people willing to do this likely already go to 8 or more matches a season, in which case the club might lose money overall.
     
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  10. SuperChrissyisfantasticPardswasatrocious

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    Have to say, I read it like how IA put it. The next question is when did IA start his role in the commercial centre? <cheers>
     
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  11. CAFCAlex

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    After being a season ticket holder for such a long time - i'm also thinking of not renewing, as I have missed 5 or 6 home games this season.

    But i'd like to know the cost of individual match tickets before I make my decision.

    There is no way I will pay the increased price after the early bird prices.
     
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  12. Tewkesbury Addick

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    Just my luck - I hit 60 and the prices go up...<laugh>

    IA, that looks like a very well thought out summing up - what do you reckon will happen to 'Football for a Fiver/Tenner'?

    As an exile supporter, my selfish view is that I'm not so much worried about season ticket prices (although appreciating the extra financial burden this places on regulars) as individual game prices and in particular, grading matches into different price bands.

    Also, we've got to get the home form right. A strong finish to this season is going to be essential to boosting season ticket sales.

    Nice try, Ted. :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  13. ForestHillBilly

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    WE don't just need a strong finish Tewkes, we need some results in the next few weeks. If the end of March comes and it looks as though the unthinkable could happen the offer of discounted season tickets won't look very tempting.
     
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  14. IA

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    Football for a fiver/tenner I think can still happen for a selected, unattractive game (Barnsley, Peterborough, Huddersfield, Tranmere, Doncaster - there's plenty of options), financed by higher ticket prices for other games. But they're one-off events.

    By the by, my suggested minimum price for a season ticket for north upper to preserve revenue and encourage a packed ground would work out at around £7.40 a game. More for the rest of the ground. I think the Stevenage match last year was £10 and there were plenty of empty seats around the ground, so I don't think it'd sell out.

    I also said that home form would have an effect on demand for season tickets, but most of the people who came mainly for footballing entertainment probably stopped renewing 5 or 6 years ago.

    I think individual match prices will definitely go up, and matches will be graded, probably more on the basis of expected numbers of away fans, so higher prices for Millwall, Leeds, Brighton, Palace, and a few more. They've tried it already this season (against Brighton), and I think it was successful in terms of increasing ticket revenue. Dynamic ticket pricing could be the plan in a few years

    One thing. I would say that the decision to freeze prices was one that was pushed for by someone in particular, popular on this board, on the basis that there would be more fans and more revenue (programmes, drinks etc, as some say here). I don't think that experiment has been too successful, so all bets are off for the policy in the next few seasons.

    Also, the main thing I took from what I read about the accounts was that non-football costs were unsustainably high, so I expect some more changes with this side of the club too.

    Tweakes, you seem to be at a lot of home games every season. Am I wrong in thinking that you make it to 10 or more a season? If I'm not wrong, is there a reason why you don't have a season ticket?
     
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  15. Miketyson2007

    Miketyson2007 Well-Known Member

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    Have we gained any regular fans from football for a fiver days...I doubt it so for me it's a waste of time
     
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  16. Jimmy The Addick

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    I am really not happy about this, there have been a few things bugging me but this is the last straw. Me and the missus will not be getting season tickets at that price, £415 each! That is an insult to be honest, without our loyal support the club would have been in the bin a long time ago, we were told about how the plan was to reach the prem and all this other stuff and now it all looks like it was just to get us to cough up more cash.

    They expect us to get what out of this? Our attendance is crap to start with, we should be pulling in almost capacity every game but we do not, and the price will be a big reason. This will end up costing the club money, as a lot of people will not renew, and if that price is considered the early bird i dread to think how much they will try to fleece once that supposed "special offer" has expired. Disgusted tbh
     
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  17. Jimmy The Addick

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    Those prices would be acceptable if we had strengthened and were showing the ambition that was suggested, i know we are not getting relegated, but it is just plain cheeky and arrogant of the board to expect a single fan to pay those prices with no info at all, at this rate we will lose most of our squad and be relegated next season, why would i pay £415 to watch us go through that again? Board need to be explaining what exactly is going on, really starting to feel our board will get us into big trouble at some point soon
     
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  18. Holden Chinaski

    Holden Chinaski Well-Known Member

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    Im really not happy about this increase, reading into it more. Here are some useful tips to help you offset the increasing prices:

    (1) not buy the new 2013/2014 club shirt
    (2) won't buy the match day programme
    (3) do not eat at the stadium
    (4) bring in your own booze disguised in coca-cola bottles

    That should offset the cost of the increase.
     
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  19. Tewkesbury Addick

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    Very comprehensive view, thanks IA.

    As far as my watching pattern is concerned, I did make 10 home games last season, but that was an exception.

    Generally, I see twice as many games away as I do at home.

    Given that seeing a home game costs me roughly £100, basically I never see a home game in isolation, I always see my folks and friends and generally spent three or four days down here - occasionally I'll watch a Saturday and Tuesday game and travel straight back on Tuesday night. The other problem, of course is that if I buy a ticket in advance and the game is postponed, the chance of me using it for the replay is virtually zero.

    I do the maths at the start of every campaign and a season ticket doesn't work out.
     
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  20. Sat In Greenwich

    Sat In Greenwich Well-Known Member

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    i already bring my own tea in a flask and greggs from greenwich. aint paying two quid for some hot water. i do get rinsed for bringing a flask - i'm only 32, not 62.
     
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