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Ashton Gate Rebuild Plans

Discussion in 'Bristol Rovers' started by Gasheadseamge79, Feb 5, 2013.

  1. Gasheadseamge79

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    ..and they're taking the rugby with them. I don't think that will go down well with
    the rugby fans....their heartland is north Bristol. They won't want to park their 4x4s
    at Aldi and drink in the Three Lions!!!
     
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    Farewell Bristol Rugby there always slacking us off saying we stole there stadium where in truth we saved them from going out of business sorry but I say good riddance to them <ok>
     
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    Good luck to them. Think they should stop wasting time and money on AV and just get on to develope AG instead.

    Didnt know though that they are the only professional club in England to have NO corporate boxes for fans. How much money have they been missing out on with this?
     
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    Good luck to them. Think they should stop wasting time and money on AV and just get on to develope AG instead.

    Didnt know though that they are the only professional club in England to have NO corporate boxes for fans. How much money have they been missing out on with this?
     
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    "NO corporate boxes for fans" <laugh> we've had them for like 17 years but there ground is a tin shack :D
     
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    We get a brand new state of the art stadium, fitting for a major city like Bristol.

    They get a lick of paint and a load of egg chasers cutting up the pitch. Wonder if they'll retain the wooden seats :D
     
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    Listening to Jon Lansdown this morning and he sounded as if he didn't really
    know what was going on! Unclear as to the extent to which his dad would
    underwrite the costs. Interesting quote that a capacity of 26,000 would
    'match the club's aspirations and be enough for the Premier League'!
    I really think they are in one hell of a mess, and a 'big thanks' for most of that
    must go to Colin Sexstone. They have wasted millions, and in the next few
    years Ashton Gate will look like Oldham's ground, and that ain't gonna attract players!
     
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    Well, that's what you get for trying to roll rough shod over evryone. It just goes to show how well our project team have done in getting the right people on board in getting permission to build a stadium in partnership with the University.

    League 2 from about ten years ago makes interesting reading, because Swansea finished tenth and Hull had only just got promoted from the botton tier. There's only one way for us now, and I think we'll cruise past our neighbours within five years or so.
     
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    <laugh> you lot don't have the tag delusional for nothing!!!!
     
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  11. Bluebaldee

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    Ah but we don't have the tag delusional. Whereupon you do have the tag '****s' <laugh>
     
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    Does the definition of a 'bigger' club mean that you must puff yourself up by racking up larger debts than your 'smaller' neighbours.
    So perhaps that's where 'delusional' comes into the comments.

    More seriously.

    There was at one time a communal fund which was drawn upon for football club ground improvements. If my memory serves me correctly, AG drew funds from that source on more than one occasion to put up more of the red sheds at AG. Rovers have not drawn on that fund because they did not own the Eastville stadium. The North Stand was financed through the good works of Godfrey Vaughan and the Supporter's Club.
    I see that there is still such a funding arrangement in place. I wonder if it is possible that the UWE stadium will receive some sort of finance from that source?
     
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  13. Gasheadseamge79

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    I wonder what really is the definition of a big club?
     
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    In my opinion, there are obviously massive clubs like Barca, Real, Man U, Spurs, Arsenal, Liv etc etc.........
    Then it gets down to perception.
    Its probably more reasonable to only judge between clubs within the same division. My view is that it should be judged within divisions by fan base. After all what is any club without its supporters?
    There are clearly exceptions to any rule.
    Obviously Sheff U are a much bigger option than Peterbro. Simply because their fan base is about four times larger and their history speaks for itself.
    Clearly Luton, who are not in the League at the moment are a bigger club than Bristol City on the basis of achievements if you take history into account.
    Also of course they have been in the league for far longer than the other club's 31 year history.
     
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    There is also the latent support that can define the size, or potential size of a club.

    Forest Green Rovers have a wealthy owner whose backing could well see them promoted to the Football league at the expense of clubs such as Luton and Wrexham. However, they virtually never get bigger crowds than 2k, and their supporter base is extremely limited - Nailsworth and Stroud and surrounding villages. It doesn't matter what league they play in, they'll still be smaller than Luton and Wrexham who have larger fanbases, and importantly larger latent fanbases.

    Same goes for the likes of Cheltenham and Yeovil - both teams could be plying their trade in the Championship but even if their grounds allowed, they wouldn't get anymore than 9k or so. They're small town clubs who have reached the peak of their potential.

    Rovers have got a large potential/latent fan base. Our large away following, massive crowds at Wembley/Millenium and even 8.5k for a League 2 basement clash all testify to this. There are many Rovers families across Bristol that no longer attend matches because of the lack of success and poor facilities. That's why it has been so important that the UWE Stadium is built to act as a springboard to get back up the leagues and give all those latent Gasheads a reason to spend their hard-earned cash with the club. Now that our stadium will be built, with all the extra income streams that it will bring, our potential can start to be realised.

    82ers don't like this fact. But a fact it remains. Under Johnson they demonstrated the latent support for their club with a number of sellouts at Ashton Gate, however, with their stagnation on and off the pitch that support plateaued and then spiralled downwards.

    It's not just about who's the 'bigger' club, it's also about who's got the bigger potential.
     
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    Two good posts <ok> I think we have the potential to be bigger some day after all we are from a big city and fan base wise our catchment area goes further a field then the ****s.
     
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    Love the way must of us congratulated you lot on getting your ground, and yet you lot run down our plans?

    The AV was in theory and still is a good idea, SL went to the council and said where can I buy a bit of land between here and here. They pointed to AV a old disussed landfill tip, the intentions were then ruined by some local people of Bristol who objected. Which up until that point was doing their research, and until you lot got your ground if it was built would of benefitted Bristol as a City with all off us enjoying seeing live bands in Bristol rather than travelling to either London or Cardiff (not a problem for me as I live this side of the bridge) or further away but for the City of Bristol where most of you reside a real boost. Yes you would of been putting money into our club but still enjoying the music on offer. I won't have a problem with putting money into your club if I get to see some good music.

    Now we have decided to resort to plan B which is basically a back up plan to what might eventually happen along come's a thread slagging the club off for what you lot have now achieved and that is to make the City of Bristol a better place for music fans. And I for one applaud the way you done it congratulations, but to say your going to be this and that in 5 years time is being dislutional even though it will take 2 years to build your stadium so 3 years playing in it won't make you become Barca overnight.

    Historically we have always been the bigger club and on fan base might continue to but I said might. What is dislutional is the fact you are already telling us that you will be this and until time proves it is still dislutional based on past history. Wales might become the greater nation in football over England that is also dislutional you will say based on history. Might happen might not!

    Sorry to ramble on but I have said for a long time, both of our clubs would of benefitted each other by getting their heads together and making one stadium to financially secure both clubs, like they do in Italy.

    Sharing with the Egg Chasers don't bother me and won't bother most of their fans as they live in Bristol as a city not just north or south. Grounds like Swansea and Reading don't really ave a problem with it so hopefully we won't.
     
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  18. AGasfan

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    Bristol City should join us at the UWE it makes financial sense.
     
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    Won't work now mate, the same as if AV went ahead it will always be your ground likewise if AV would of been ours. We missed the opportunity when both clubs should of sat down 5 years or so ago and outlined a plan when the stadium would of been both clubs not one.

    Hopefully we will still get AV and then the City will benefit from both stadia. But if not I've never been opposed to a redeveloped AG as it has potentional to become a modern stadium when completed going on the blueprints.


    Anyway can't be seen talking to much sense I have a reputation to uphold and Bluebaldee will think I have been abducted <laugh>
     
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    ROD <ok>

    just to point out i think its a great idea with redeveloping AG. plans look good. i have said above in this thread good luck to you lot with it. i think you are wasting your time with AV now as the fact you have a plan B the nimbys will hit on that saying you dont need AV which will ruin their lives blah blah blah (you know the usual stuff they come out with) when you have a plan B on the site you currently use. dont waste anymore money or time as you have to wait to october for your meeting and been told may be jan/feb next year before you get an answer (heard that on radio bristol). just crack on with AG instead would be a better idea and its your spiritual home so makes more sense. the new pitch you will get shouldnt cause issues with the rugby unlike the problems we have with our pitch.
    i was only against AV as you were hiding behind the world cup to get your stadium. but as soon as the world cup bid was lost, i been wishing you lot well with AV and will do so still with AV and AG. of course when you get tits up moments it is funny from our point of view. im sure if we didnt get uwe, some of you lot who congratulated us would have found it funny. thats just the banter in us.

    hopefully by 2017/18 both sides should have new stadiums and put bristol on the map again with our sport. imagine bristol derbies in the championship? before swansea got to the prem, look how well they and cardiff were doing as rivals in the championship, imagine if that was us! <ok>
     
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