1. Congrats on dropping 33% fewer points than us at home to Villa, but... 2. When we played Villa they weren't in the relegation zone
Seams we are having a comparison game we drew at the Ethihad 1-1 lets see how you do...(Personally I think you will draw but I'd like you to lose as I think your a cock lol) We dropped 33.333333333333333333333% points less not 33% lol
No, but they conceded 15 goals without reply in their next 3 games, after spanking your behinds at the pit.
Celebrating a terrible point at home to Villa because it's a better result than the Mighty Reds got typical bluenoses
Not celebrating a point you plank merely winding you lot up because we came back and you could not and obviously your taking the bait...TBH I think a point against that ****e side Is terrible and If Sheitinga was not on the pitch have no doubts we would be fourth now...
I hope for Brendans sake, Mankini remembers to bring the lube...... Time for the annual 3-0 home win for Citeh........
Billy, as difficult as I'm sure it is for you to comprehend, the days of us using the ****e as our yardstick to decide whether we're any good or not, are long gone. NEWSFLASH: it's 2013 & you're not very good
Posted it on both actually but bellends abusing cross board threads the function was removed and thus because Liverpool came first in the liost and we all wanted to abuse the **** out of that Irish bellend it ended up on your board.
lol, I lost a small fortune on you lot when you went down to Oldham the week prior, I figured I was owed a humiliation. Didn't happen though, you played well tbh, well worthy of a point.
Come on lads let's not get carried away a few seasons in and around our level after 25 years of bollocks and you all get delusions of grandeur. Basically you've overtaken us because we've been a bit **** lately but Brendas still doing in 6 months what its taken Gollum 10 years to sort. Enjoy the next few months though lads, normal service will soon be resumed and we all know it.
I'm going to tell you what Moyes has achieved in ten years is worth far more than a trophy. The only argument against him being a top manager is for a club like Everton he should have won a trophy, yet most don't realise just how **** we were when he took over and the following proves that. He took over at the near on end of the 2001-02 season and here are the finishes we had not long before that. 96/97 - 15th 97/98 - 17th 98/99 - 14th 99/00 - 13th 00/01 - 16th 01/02 - 15th Considering in his first season, first XI was: ------------------------------Richard Wright----------------------------- Tony Hibbert------David Weir---------Alan Stubbs----David Unsworth Thomas Gravesen----Li Tie----------Lee Carsley-----Gary Naismith--- ---------------Thomasz Radzinski-------Kevin Campbell---------------- That team was somehow guided to 7th place in Moyes' first proper season, you look at that team and let's be honest it is a relegation team which was reflected the next season when we finished 17th in 03-04 Then we finished 4th in the 04-05 season when we were one of the favourites for relegation and had sold Rooney to Manchester United. Now, lets be honest here that's an absolutely amazing thing to do after finishing 17th and selling your best player for £27m and only spending £8m to cover it in transfers. I don't think many managers could have done that. After crashing out of the champions league qualifiers to a very tough draw against Villareal we finished 11th the following year. After that we had succession of top six finishes for 4 years before finishing 8th, 7th and 7th which brings us up to now. Consider that when David Moyes took over, we'd only finished in the top ten once since the premier league began. In 10 years on a shoe string budget (£5.6m net spend since he arrived) he has 8 top 8 finishes under his belt. David Moyes has transformed Everton into an competitive side in my opinion. Sometimes in cups you need luck, had we beat Fiorentina on penalties we'd have faced PSV in the quarter finals of the Uefa Cup in the 07-08 season and who knows what could have happened from there considering we had already beat the eventual winners. We could have won the FA Cup in 09 but just came short. You look at the team I posted at the top and if I told you at the time that Everton would be competing for Europe regularly in ten years time with a net spend of around £5m in the next ten years then I'm pretty sure all of us would be amazed. I think all that is worth a lot more than a few cup wins. What do you think Birmingham City would have preferred, the league cup or the above?
Come on Shogs the Birmingham comparrison isn't really relevant. Obviously cup final vs relegation is a no brainer. However ten years without a trophy is awful for a club like yours (just as twenty odd years without a title is awful for mine). Moyes has done a good job but he's been at it ten years. Kenwright has allowed him to keep trying and building patiently (despite the criticism he receives from so many blues). I remember even at the start of last season after yet another terrible start how many were calling for both Moyes and Kenwright to go so let's not pretend everything's been rosey for ages. The simple fact is though that winning things is what we (as fans) love most and Moyes after all these years has yet to prove he can win anything. He's had good enough teams to win things and he's had a lot of time to set up what he's now got. Basically he's done a good job...but has he done a great one?
without Moyes I'm almost certain we'd have been relegated over the last ten years due to poor players and poor financing. As I've said, the "A club like ours" tag isn't really relevant. At the time Moyes took over we were one of the worst teams in the league and over the last ten years had to sell to buy. The calibre of a club doesn't make it easier to win a trophy. Last season, Some fans were fed up with Moyes because of the continuous poor starts every season and felt it was time to move on but most if not all still thought he was a great manager and had done great things for us. We just felt he seemed disinterested and fed up. However a few signings last January have turned everything around. He hasn't had good enough teams to win things though, there's always been 6 or 7 better teams on paper. And as luck would have it, when we did go far in competitions that the cream of the crop always happened to still be in it.
