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Discussion in 'Celtic' started by Albatross, Dec 9, 2012.

  1. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    You don't mind? aye right.
     
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  2. VenomPD

    VenomPD Merrick jr

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    Spastic Beel
     
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  3. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    Trevor's a bit simple. Lay off the poor boy.
     
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  4. Super hooper

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    The score could be close enough, I like the naivety of Pud thinking Black and elbows
    McCullagh sent off. No doubt both probably will escape with a friendly word from
    anyone of their compliant referees. Sammi and Hooper would be given off side
    even from own half. Our goalie would have a penalty given against him for hand
    ball but even with that we would probably win two or three nil.

    Pud, best joke of week !, it's the way you tell them.
     
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  5. VenomPD

    VenomPD Merrick jr

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    **** rolls downhill. <ok>
     
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  6. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    Don't think he was joking poopy
     
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  7. Super hooper

    Super hooper New Member

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    When you are posting about Huns, either the crowd that deprived the Country of its,
    taxes, or the new version involving the clown who makes different outlandish
    promises on a daily basis, you cannot joke as in either case they are a virus on
    football and the Country. Let us hope the likely future administration and
    Liquidation comes quickly and this time no fool steps in.
     
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  8. Super hooper

    Super hooper New Member

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    Leave poor Trevor alone. Trevor suffered more than most by the Huns not paying
    their taxes. The Government had decided to build a home for the physical and mental
    disabled in Govan but had to cancel their plans when there was a shortfall in tax income.
    Poor Trevor finds it very cold these past few nights staying in shop doorways.
     
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  9. Cossy

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    Mark Hateley in 'Jokes are funny, but only if Sevco get the last word' shocker.



    "Rangers can't mask the truth against Dundee United


    THE Dundee United fan who dreamt up the plan to wear Craig Whyte masks when Rangers visit next week has a poor sense of humour.
    Rangers fans stayed away from Tannadice in March Rangers fans stayed away from Tannadice in March

    I like a good laugh and a joke as much as the next man but this is just bad taste and a trigger for trouble.

    This so called bit of fun will only serve to open up fresh wounds between the two clubs.

    Rangers fans have taken a stance over the belief United wronged the club last summer.

    The boycott of this tie is something I back but that should be the end of the bad blood. We should be moving on but the plan to wear masks is foolish and inflammatory.

    It’s not only Rangers that man destroyed as he’s had a massive negative impact on the way the game has gone over the past year.

    I still struggle even to mention the name of the shamed former chairman while United’s relationship with Rangers is already at breaking point after their stance which denied the Ibrox side SPL status after their implosion.

    Hopefully this will be a Scottish Cup tie where the focus is on the football.

    The trip to Tannadice will mark six months of Rangers being a Third Division club and it will also serve as a yardstick as to how far they’ve come.

    It will be judgment day for the club and a gauge of the progress that has been made.

    You need to go back to October for the last match Rangers lost. That was against Inverness and now they face another SPL side.

    It’s been 13 wins and one draw since that League Cup defeat which is impressive.

    The players have now bedded into the league, the team is scoring goals and cruising towards the title.

    But the real acid test will come on Tayside next Saturday and we’ll discover just how far the confidence has travelled within this young side.

    Coming up against an SPL outfit will provide a platform for kids such as Lewis Macleod, Barrie McKay, Ross Perry and Fraser Aird to show what stage they are at in their development.

    These boys have shown they can turn it on when they defeated Motherwell in the cup earlier this season at Ibrox. But this time they’re away from home in a hostile environment without the backing of their own fans.

    It doesn’t get any more intimidating than that. Let’s not forget, it’s a Third Division side playing away at an SPL side.

    But the confidence Ally McCoist now has running through his side will be a bonus and hopefully a win over Montrose this weekend will continue to build the momentum.

    But it will still be a huge challenge for a team operating in the lowest league to emerge with a win."
     
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  10. RebelBhoy

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    Why is it a joke in poor taste? No Sevco fans will be there to see it.

    According to Hateley they are angry at the arabs for not letting them in.... Whit!

    That is like me being angry at Oxford University for not letting me in...even though I am too dumb to meet the entry criteria.

    Not forgetting of course that Sevco fans were hugely in favour of the SFA stretching the rules to allow them into the bottom tier.
     
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  11. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    Hateley is a trumpet. It's only a joke ffs <doh>
     
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  12. RebelBhoy

    RebelBhoy Moderator Staff Member

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    So a new club should be allowed to play in England and allowed in at a higher level than the bottom tier because if the club they replaced had been let in years ago they probably would have won promotion a couple of times and not gone bust..... Forgetting all about the whole decade of cheating thing.... Oh and other teams shouldn't bother because it is too expensive.

    Rangers have route into English football by suing FA

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    By EOGHAINN MACLEAN
    Published on Saturday 26 January 2013 00:00

    RANGERS could sue the Football Association and any other opposing football authorities in competition law for orders forcing their entry to the English football leagues.
    They could do so in the Court of Session in Edinburgh. It would be Bosman for the clubs.
    That is Rangers&#8217; route to the FA Premier League. In his 14 years of denying that there is one, Richard Scudamore, its chief executive, has been wrong for at least 12 of them.
    Rangers&#8217; Charles Green has vowed to explore ways for the club to play in the English game. Since 2009, Uefa have made it clear that it would not oppose that. The SFA has now indicated likewise. The Football Conference has suggested the possibility of the club being admitted to its premier division, England&#8217;s fifth tier.
    The English FA, the FA Premier League and the Football League now seem to be the only bodies still insisting on the geographic division of professional football markets in the UK by opposing Rangers&#8217; move. The club&#8217;s case in competition law is its prime lever to force or override those bodies&#8217; consent. It seems, however, Mr Green may not have been advised of it. This whole issue is about restrictive trade practices, not sex discrimination.
    Rangers&#8217; case would be founded on two pillars of UK competition law, Chapters I & II of the Competition Act 1998. They are applied in accordance with EU law and are directly enforceable by private undertakings in the ordinary courts.
    No competition case is &#8220;easy&#8221; but, in my opinion, Rangers would have a good prospect of success. In essence, their case would be that they are a business undertaking that should be free to provide its services as a football club to the buyers of those services anywhere in the UK. That the buyers are, principally, the organisers of domestic football league tournaments, who distribute shares of revenue in return. That the English football authorities are cartels which abuse their dominant position on those markets in the UK by having rules which exclude professional clubs that do not play their home games in England or Wales. That is a hard core competition abuse, worse than price fixing.
    If the court accepts that, Rangers would have been the victims of a civil wrong by the English authorities. Ending anti-competitive practices is a fundamental aim of competition law and a court order requiring them to change their rules and admit Rangers would do that in this case.
    The Court would not require Rangers to enter at the bottom of the English National League System. The victim of a civil wrong must, so far as the court can, be put in the position it would have been had the wrong not been committed. If Mr Scudamore and his colleagues have, indeed, been saying &#8220;no&#8221; consistently for 14 years, then the club has been wronged continuously since, at least, 2000 when the Act came into force. Had Rangers been admitted then, where, is it likely, they would be now? With evidence of their past achievements, domestically and in Europe, their gates and their revenues, even in a small league and over years, including this season in Scotland&#8217;s fourth division, there would be a strong argument that they should be admitted to the Championship, at least.
    The court could not refuse Rangers a remedy just because it might &#8220;open the floodgates&#8221; to other cross-border club transfers. Competition law requires the ordinary courts to give private businesses, like Rangers, effective remedies. Its whole purpose in giving them rights is to have them do the job of enforcing that law by obtaining court orders that bring market abuses to an end.
    In any event, the likely number of cross-border transfers would be limited. While Celtic, Aberdeen, Dundee United, Hibs, Hearts and perhaps one or two other Scottish clubs might, on the same grounds, benefit from entry to the English leagues, for many others it would be unwise. Only Celtic would have a similar case for entry to a higher division.
    Inverness CT, if they got into League 2, would likely find their supporters less interested in fixtures with Exeter City than with Ross County, their broadcast income little higher and their wage, travel and other costs substantially greater. If they stayed, they would be among the biggest fish left in the Scottish pool, with better prospects of domestic success and European qualification.
    On the continent, Ajax might well get a transfer to the Bundesliga, relying on the EU competition law from which the UK Act is derived. For most, however, transfers between member states&#8217; leagues would be even less attractive for similar, but more marked, reasons. They would be further restricted by additional hurdles in EU law that Rangers would not face under the Act.
    Football authorities are not above the law. Since the Bosman case, Fifa and Uefa have repeatedly lobbied for EU legislation and, latterly, non-binding declarations that the splitting of domestic football into national territories within the EU is, nonetheless, compatible with competition law. They have been consistently refused.
    What, probably, stopped Rangers going to court in the past, were the rules in Fifa&#8217;s, Uefa&#8217;s and the national associations&#8217; constitutions which prohibit clubs from taking action against any football bodies in the ordinary courts.
    Courts in the UK are unlikely to give effect to such prohibitions, especially in a competition abuse case. The EU Commission has insisted on their removal from the rules of the FIA, motor sport&#8217;s governing body, and from Fifa&#8217;s rules, in so far as they affect player transfers, which was scope of the case it was then dealing with.
    There is always a risk, however, that a court might not be persuaded to grant all the interim orders necessary to prevent Fifa, Uefa and other football authorities from being able to make sanctions against an &#8220;offending club&#8221; or its parent association take practical effect in the short term.
    While Rangers were competing at the top level in Scotland and trying to be competitive in Europe, with all the expenditure on players, staff and everything else that that required, they may have assessed the risk as too great. Now that they face being cast even further adrift by Scottish league reconstruction, they have little to lose and much to gain from finally taking this competition case to court.
    &#8226; Eoghainn Maclean is an Advocate practising competition and other commercial law. He is a member of the Ampersand Stable. The stable will be holding a seminar on legal issues affecting Scottish football (www.ampersandstable.com).


    Scotsman
     
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  13. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    So if I wanted to join a private members club in England they would have to accept me?

    <laugh>
     
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  14. Albatross

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    Said it in another post. This advocate is a trumpet. SEVCO don't have three years of accounts, the had no membership of any football association in the world for two months, so continuity broken, the old club were liquidated etccetc.

    Now if I can pick holes in this guys argument and back it up with, corporate, legal and FIFA Evidence that this club is only six months old, what would the FA UEFA FIFA. Legal reps be able to do?

    Possible outcomes if they do, in the highly unlikely event go to court under EU restriction of trade laws,
    1 they are told that they are in fact a New club<party>
    2 they fail on the three year account rule

    AND SAINT PETER POLITELY COUGHS AND SAYS.........AHEM.........CELTIC QUALIFY......THANKS CHARLEY, best of luck explaining how you got into the SFL without a continuation of membership and without three years of accounts.<party>

    Glad this guy ain't working for me or representing me.

    His employers must be very very worried.
     
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  15. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    Go outside Albert. Talk to people n stuff.
     
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  16. Albatross

    Albatross Well-Known Member

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    FOLKS.....I HAVE A STALKER.

    Barely do I finish a post on here than Nev the shadow lurker with his dodgy raincoat with holes in the pockets appears.:emoticon-0106-cryin

    Scary or what.
     
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    He does - unfortunately every time he goes out he buys drugs which make him believe that he can write like Shakespeare and argue like an Old Bailey Barrister. What he doesn't realise of course is that he is about as articulate in englsih as a blind mute deaf elephant. His arguments are as convincing as a rafa Benitez press conference.

    Still - on the bright side Albert - God loves a trier. We'll probably find out you're aetheist now...............
     
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  18. RebelBhoy

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    His arguments are right though.

    I don't always agree with the suppisitions, conclusions and placement but he is correct in the arguments he makes.
     
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  19. DevAdvocate

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    I tend to agree, even if I do have little interest in the to=ings and fro-ings of the The Rangers argument it's worth it just to see some people roll out the same tired rebukes, "No mates" and so on.
     
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  20. Super hooper

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    Charlie Green and Sally are going to test the water, to see what Sevco' s chances would
    Be by trying to join another close shop "the women's institute". If Charlie and Sally
    can get leadership positions in Govan W.I. Then that will be their precedent for getting
    Into the higher echelons of English Football .

    I may be wrong, but I think that UEFA have special powers over individual leagues and
    Countries that means they have to approve any crossing of state boundaries. It is
    At the back of my mind Derry City were refused by IFA and the state to transfer into
    LOI football and UEFA over ruled them and so Derry City play in the LOI.
     
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