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Political Correctness in Football

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  1. District Line

    District Line Well-Known Member
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    I come in Peace.

    I understand you probably couldn't care less about what happened on Wednesday but I just wanted to open up (if possible) a debate on political correctness in football (or at least the PL anyway). Whether you think there is/isn't? Where the problems lie? Societal issues. Government to blame etc.

    No matter what side you are on (it seems to have encapsulated the nation) it's become clear now that kind of behaviour (whether Hazard kicked the ball or not) isn't acceptable partly due to brand image and public outcry. We all hate Man Utd but would a player have been banned for swearing in front of his own away fans 30 or even 20 years ago? The answer is an emphatic No.

    Just wanted to get your opinions on this, don't bite my head off.

    Thanks in advance. <cheers>
     
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  2. gerrardspredators

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    unfortunetly, you're right.
    football clubs see themselves as brands nowadays and take more responsibility for their players, whereas the press would have taken up issues with only the player in previous years...
    oh well... wonder what fergie would have sed if he managed hazard, the press wouldnt say much! ha
     
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  3. Aidan-lfc

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    Think it's gone mental mate. And in all honesty, i'm 100% behind Hazard. The ball boy's job is to give the ball back to the players as quickly as possible, not lie on top of the ball trying to waste time.
     
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  4. DayDoDoeDontDayDoe

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    This

    The ballboy is a t*at, Hazard shudda kicked the c**t harder, Im certain response from FA wudda been different for United player
     
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  5. District Line

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    The big problem is players being unable to express themselves, told what they can and cannot do.

    I understand footballers are paid extortionately and live luxurious lives but that doesn't mean they shouldn't have basic rights the rest of us all have, IMO.

    The witchunts against Terry, Suarez and Hazard has been way OTT and are in example of PC gone mad, this is at least what my uncle of 70 years told me and e came to this country in the days of "No Blacks, no dogs, No Irish"
     
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    I feel like this has relevance here.

    The Ball boy was a dickhead for keeping the ball, he was a dickhead for posting he was going to do it before the match, and hes a dickhead for being a spoilt little brat walking around with daddy's credit card. Rolling around like a ****ing woman, what a disgrace.
     
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    And the irony is the ones conducting the witchunts are the ones you wouldnt trust in a million years
     
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    You have the right to swear at the public and push people to the ground at your place of work?
     
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    Political correctness has gone utterly bonkers, i saw a wet floor sign on a pool bottom the other week, wtf!
    And astroturfnaut, ,you just taking this a little bit too hard, think i saw your posts the other day, really watch the footage, he gets the ball, it was just a toepoke.
    The lad was behaving like an a.rs.e, no hazard did not behave appropriately, neither did the lad and neither did swansea fc.
    A red card was fair, end of
    Isnt there some kind of statement that says that he who is without sin may cast the first stone or those in glass houses, etc
     
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    We've all got to blame ourselves for letting things get so far out of hand and actively 'buying in to' a lot of the claptrap.

    Who was it that defined footballers as role models? On what grounds and upon what evidence? They are not role models they are footballers - the majority of who struggle to get even 5 GCSEs! Yet we define all of their actions and statements in line with their supposed new found responsibilities. If your kids need a role model then you are failing in your duty if you abrigate that responsibility to a footballer! I want my rock artists to play music and I couldn't care less what they smoke, ingest, drink etc. Equally I want my footballers to concentrate upon football.

    Why oh why do we let the media set the agenda for us? They make a big noise and cry crocodile tears purely for their own benefit.

    End of mini rant
     
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  11. Foredeckdave

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    That is a specious argument in this context
     
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  12. DirtyFrank

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    Its all the rage to be in a rage.

    The downside to instant global communication is that we now for all intents and purposes hear each others thoughts.

    A further problem is that all the people who use to get carted off in a white coat or tied to a post in a circus for vocalising their thoughts to the general public now cloaked in initial anonymity become bloggers, gain followers, which is the same as fame these days which automatically means they matter, reveal themselves & their opinions are broadcast on TV or radio 'reality' shows, and if watched by enough people only slightly less crazy or slightly more bored with their lives than them, their opinion will then attract "mainstream" media.

    Beneath all of our "progression", civilisation, is the mob. And the mob needs an enemy.
     
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  13. Ze

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    I like to think of myself as a 1 man mob.
     
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  14. DirtyFrank

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    What does your mob hate Ze!

    Better not be baby turtles.
     
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    I don't have a problem with it. I said yesterday I thought he should get a 4 match ban (an extra for the stupidity of starting the situation) and it looks like that's what he will get. And none of that requires him to have actually kicked the ballboy. If he HAD kicked the ballboy, we would be talking about months, not games.
     
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    I think a lot of people revel in the outrage if I'm honest. we've been on the receiving end of it as well recently and it looks as though fans look at any situation and want to feel disgusted by it because it winds up other fans. I mean, who watches a football match on TV, see's the Hazard situation and decides to contact the police about it? it's ridiculous
     
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  17. Aggrieved Cantona fans <whistle>
     
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  18. astro

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    Peter Herbert?
     
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    Didn't read earlier posts (lazy) but if he didn't "actually" (based on your comment) kick the ball boy, what exactly is the red card for? Kicking the ball away? Or a red card for physically touching the ball boy?

    Nevin will be right: managers & players will ask for the removal of ball boys if that's the case. Can't have people that can negatively effect the game with impunity.

    I've seen plenty of occasions where the opposition player pretends its his throw in, keeps hold of the ball which results in a little pushing & pulling between two players. Didn't result in a red card and the same argument of let the ref add the time later could be levelled in that situation. So if no kick; why a red?

    Now personally? Not remotely a red under slow mo but I can understand why it was given at real speed.

    Should be rescinded otherwise the ballboy is rewarded better than he could have dreamed. Not only did he negatively effect the game with impunity, he has effected 4 more games his club aren't even involved in.

    All the ****er should get is his cool points with his mates. He'll be dead from a cocaine OD by 20 or starring in Made in Swansea.
     
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    I hate those little edible ball bearings that you get on cupcakes.
     
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