Ok fair enough, but a new manager will take a lot of time to get things going. Staying up should be your only priority. If you go down it will be a hammer blow to what you are trying to achieve.
Yeah Southampton fans certainly do have lots of ambition/delusions of grandeur (depending on your point of view). It used to wind me up but now I'm just like whatever.
Now why should staying up be our "only" priority? Surely building a better team contributes to the priority of staying up? Are you somehow suggesting that we should be focusing on staying up without building a better team? Should teams not try and progress, just incase it doesn't work? Anyone with any plan in life, work, football, whatever, sets an end goal and then puts stepping stones in place to reach that goal. It looks right now that reaching the level of Liverpool is possibly one or two stepping stones.... perhaps reaching the big teams like Manchester United is 5 or 6 stepping stones, eh?
Well Lapras, that statement flies in the face off 90% of the comments sposted by Saints fans over this last weekend after Nigel's sacking. We obviously weren't ambitious enough as no-one could understand that decision!
Totally agree, The manager has said he isn't looking change our style of play drastically straight away just tweak it here and there like pressing higher up the pitch etc. With a couple more signing to give us a little stregth in depth. I think we are more than capable of staying up and once we get the games against UTD and CITY out of the way I believe we can start looking up rather than down.
I think what red was alluding to was sides in the past have come up, spent tons of money only to go down, have the players leave for minimal amounts and then the side have a real job of getting themselves back up again. Look at the side that Newcastle had when they got relegated, on paper it was a superb side - Owen, Viduka, Martins, Geremi, Habib Beye, Duff, N'Zogbia, Butt - all of those either cost a lot on fees or were on huge wages yet none of them were in the team that got promoted again. OK they still had the resources to get back again cofortably due to years of champions league football and good league positions, you guys don't have that luxury. I think it's great to see you guys showing real ambition and I hope you stay up but to say you want to compete with barca is just delusion, they are a million miles away from most clubs in the premier league - including us and it wasn't too long ago when we beat them at the Nou Camp
Have to say, even though I'm not a big fan of Suarez (to put it mildly), that's a very entertaining sig you have! Well, compared to Nic I'm not sure many people are ambitious enough!
When we say we want to be like Barcelona we dont mean as successful as them that just wont happen, our main reason we talk about barcelona is we want to have half our team coming through our academy. I think we can become a biggish club, but we wont ever be competing for the champions league title, years and years down the line we may be aiming for qualifications.
Well... it's sort of open to interpretation... but yeah, that is what I meant. As well as being obsessed with former glories and and days gone by etc...
Liverpool have been known for have deluded fans for a while, but congratulations I think you've just grabbed that title from us. It'll be the only thing you're competing with us for though. Don't forget where you are. You're in a relegation scrap, not fighting for euro qualification. It will take you years to reach that top 8 never mind targeting Barcelona.
All the Barca talk is becasue we went training there this week and is clearly tongue in cheek. We do have some serious ambitions though. Let's be really honest with each other, it is hilarious that Liverpool fans are now taking an interest in Southampton and popping over here for a look at what's going on. I don't know of that says something about our progress or your demise. I'm not having a pop, but when did Liverpool last have a look at us?
Not really, one of our posters told us of this thread, in his own words: I had to come and check it out for myself.
An old Saint mentioned the Lawrie glory days earlier. Let's think about that. Liverpool were number one in the land beyond doubt - far more dominant than any single Premier club is now - and yet in the '83/'84 season Bob Wilson was able to talk of the strong possibility of Saints doing the double. We fell short (thanks to Merseyside United!), but it was clear that the plane was ready to take off. The Board bottled it, Lawrie left and we've been short of ambition ever since - until now. Scouse friends of mine mock, and I smile. Remember Liverpool were nothing until Shankly; Leeds were a poor team until Revie. Teams do come good. And if Nicola Cortese gets it wrong, and we find ourselves in annual dogfight leading to the next relegation then so what? It would be no more than most of us expect. But for now, I'm an old fool who shares the dream. I only hope Mauricio delivers.
An old Saint mentioned the Lawrie glory days earlier. Let's think about that. Liverpool were number one in the land beyond doubt - far more dominant than any single Premier club is now - and yet in the '83/'84 season Bob Wilson was able to talk of the strong possibility of Saints doing the double. We fell short (thanks to Merseyside United!), but it was clear that the plane was ready to take off. The Board bottled it, Lawrie left and we've been short of ambition ever since - until now. Scouse friends of mine mock, and I smile. Remember Liverpool were nothing until Shankly; Leeds were a poor team until Revie. Teams do come good. And if Nicola Cortese gets it wrong, and we find ourselves in annual dogfight leading to the next relegation then so what? It would be no more than most of us expect. But for now, I'm an old fool who shares the dream. I only hope Mauricio delivers.
