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Discussion in 'Watford' started by Al the Hornet, Nov 23, 2011.

  1. vic-rijrode

    vic-rijrode Well-Known Member

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    Actually Krayg Mikhail-Schmidt.......
     
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  2. Goldentrue

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    Valutaions depend a lot on remaining term of the contract as well as perceived quality and prospect of the player as the 'asset' of the players registration diminishes over the term.

    I am not sure how long Zaha had left on his contract, but if Vydra will have only one year left it will lower his value. For that reason I really hope we do sign him on a new longer term contract, and then with another successful year his value will increase.
     
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  3. goldenboy1993

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    He signed a 5 year contract last year, so it would have been 4 years left, this is why we want a 5 year deal with Vydra
     
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  4. Goldentrue

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    Agreed. Zaha with 4+ years contract remaining is worth more than Vydra with just over a year left on his contract irrespective of whether we feel Vydra is better or comparable in ability, as part of the valuation is the asset value of the contract written down over its term.

    So signing a new contract will boost his value, I really hope we can do that.

    We are in an interesting position where we want our players to do well on behalf of our club, but we know that when they do well they will become targets for other clubs! We have to accept that, these players if they do well will become attractive, so we want to ensure we get the best prices we can.
     
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  5. HaslemereKev

    HaslemereKev Well-Known Member

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    Zaha also comes with the 'England-premium' that comes with so many English players - Think the likes of Henderson, Downing, Carroll etc, who you pay over the odds just because they are English!
     
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  6. Toby

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    Zaha cost less than Downing or Henderson <yikes>
     
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  7. North North Watford

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    I think those players are more a case of Liverpool being idiots, than of the 'England premium'.
     
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  8. Irohas Bunyon

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    Personally i think Downing is overpriced at the amount of change i have in my pocket (£7.32 by the way).
     
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  9. HaslemereKev

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    Ok, probably a bad idea using just Liverpool players.. especially the Downing deal. I would suggest Zaha is similar to the Walcott and Oxlade-Chamberlain deals (similar to Carroll and Henderson) - They're playing for potential, and English-Potential seems to add an extra £5-10m on top of what they are probably worth - or Carroll's case, about £30m too much!
     
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  10. vic-rijrode

    vic-rijrode Well-Known Member

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    Did Florists pay anything for Doris?
     
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  11. Charlie Livesey was my hero

    Charlie Livesey was my hero Well-Known Member

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    No he went on a free
     
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  12. vic-rijrode

    vic-rijrode Well-Known Member

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    In that case he wasn't well over the odds - must be another Henderson.
     
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  13. HaslemereKev

    HaslemereKev Well-Known Member

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    Jordan Henderson, at Liverpool. Went for £16m+

    Any young English player with potential seems to go for extortionate amounts!
     
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  14. HaslemereKev

    HaslemereKev Well-Known Member

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    On Twitter;

    Watford FC News @News_WFC 19m
    Watford are in talks with Manchester City over a deal for wide midfielder Jeremy Helan, he is 20 years old.

    Forza Watford! @forzawatford 35m
    #Watford want to sign Manchester City left-back Jeremy Helan, who was on loan at Sheffield Wednesday, on a permanent contract. #watfordfc

    Forza Watford! @forzawatford 34m
    Sheffield Wednesday boss Dave Jones said: &#8220;We wait for the Jeremy Helan decision. Watford have come in and want to buy him.&#8221; #watfordfc
     
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  15. HaslemereKev

    HaslemereKev Well-Known Member

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    Quote taken from the article -

    Jones continued: “He came in and did well. We are disappointed that someone else has come in but at this moment in time, we cannot match what they are offering."

    Blimey, when was the last time we were able to offer something better than another team? A sign of good things to come?
     
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  17. Bolton's Boots

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  18. North North Watford

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    In the actual paper's report on the Spain trip, Zola said:

    "The whole squad couldn't travel so the ones who stayed at home were the injured players or the ones who would not be in the squad on Saturday."

    "Plus there were players who may have the possibility of leaving in the transfer window so we needed to keep them in England."

    (the ones who stayed included Dickinson, Iwelumo, Buaben, Whichelow, Mingoia and Jenkins)
     
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  19. Hornette_TID

    Hornette_TID Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    He didn't go to Spain...ergo, he must be going...
     
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  20. Al the Hornet

    Al the Hornet Well-Known Member

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    Interesting Weimann rumour;) but the rumour about buying anyone from ICT now a days is let's just say silly;)

    26 Jan 2013 10:42:16
    Bit of Watford news.

    The Hornets have an eye on Billy Mackay at ICT and will make their move if they get promoted.

    Also, they are aware that Weimann at Villa only has 18 months on his contract and if Udinese, Watford's parent club, buys him, no compensation is due. The player will then immediately transfer out to the Hornets.
     
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